Question for Danish Pipe Experts

[snagstangl]

Even a crappy picture of the logo will help me. Also is it HANDMADE IN DENMARK, HAND MADE IN DENMARK, Handmade in Denmark?
I don't think most of the stanwell and seconds said handmade in denmark. Karl Erik stuff said Handmade Denmark. The danish style ben wade's were made by Preben Holm.

 

[snagstangl]

http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-p2.html#peterstokkebye
Kriswell had a number of lines with the handmade in denmark stamp. I guess Stanwell stamped some of their pipes as well, but most of the lesser lines were just made in denmark stamped.

 

[shanegreen]

Here is is. It is looking like part of an I is worn off. This should help a lot.

 

[seacaptain]

Also is it HANDMADE IN DENMARK, HAND MADE IN DENMARK, Handmade in Denmark?

Hee hee...

 

[shanegreen]

George you may be right, because if the initials are upside down to the other stamp, and it is a partly worn I, then this could very possibly be an early Sixten Ivarsson.

 

[dmcmtk]

George you may be right, because if the initials are upside down to the other stamp, and it is a partly worn I, then this could very possibly be an early Sixten Ivarsson.

I can guarantee it's not an Ivarsson pipe. Early Sixten Ivarsson pipes from end of the 1940’s and beginning of the 1950’s were classic English shapes like Zulu and Dublin, but more slender and slim, with slightly different curves.
Some examples, and good reading (see the comments on markings) here,
https://pipedia.org/wiki/Ivarsson,_Sixten
This same type of shaping can be seen in some of the early pipes Sixten Ivarson designed for Stanwell, see catalog here,
https://pipedia.org/wiki/File:Stanwell1.pdf
I can say with absolute certainty, that your pipe is from Preben Holm's workshop.
"IIS - Also known: IS, IM. Seconds from the Preben Holm workshop."
The S is an abbreviation for the Danish term for seconds, which I do not recall, and I don't speak Danish.

 

[snagstangl]

I think it is a Karl Erik pipe. The Golden Danish and Shelburne sub brands were stamped HANDMADE IN DENMARK and then further marked II S if sent to the US market. See the pipe phil pics and links below.
http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-g4.html#goldendanish

http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-s6.html#shelburne

Dam it looks like I'm wrong

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[sablebrush52]

I just got a call from Rob Cooper who identified this pipe as a Ben Wade second. Rob used to collect Ben Wades and Preben Holm pipes and is familiar with this make and with this marking. Rob says that it is a 1S, not an ST. He dates this pipe to the 1970's.

 

[snagstangl]

Well it's settled looks like. Does anyone have a picture of a Preben Holm or Ben Wade with the I/1 S marking?

 

[shanegreen]

Thanks very much to Jesse, Snag, and dmcmtk for the intensive detective work. Well done men! I am happy with this pipe, and plan to enjoying many smokes from it. :D

 

[shanegreen]

And also it looks like George pretty much called it since it is a Ben Wade second from the 70's. So thanks to you sir, and everyone else. I learned something more today.

 

[jensen]

llS....... 2. sortering.......second grade ... I am a Dane

 

[dmcmtk]

llS....... 2. sortering.......second grade ... I am a Dane

There you have it. I heard it from Ronnie B., who had it from a conversation with Poul Winslow, pipe maker, and foreman at Preben Holm during the period.

 

[snagstangl]

This seller has a pile of Ben Wades and Holm's for sale, if anyone wants to look. Pretty good pictures.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/thomasjduncanluckydog/m.html?item=222744525819&hash=item33dc9bbbfb%3Ag%3AsLcAAOSwfwBadgD9&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Here is one from this seller that has the I S stamp.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Preben-Holm-Estate-pipes-II-S-freehand-Denmark-Hily-polished-stem-w-logo/222723493187?hash=item33db5acd43:g:V00AAOSwldRaE-a8
But the picture is horrible.

 

[snagstangl]

 

[shanegreen]

Haha Snag I was just looking at that guys pipes yesterday. He has some nice pipes, a couple that I am considering dropping some cash on. Thanks, it didn't register about the Preben Holm because I was looking up a brand I never heard of that he also had yesterday. I am glad to see it is still worth a bit, not that I intend to sell mine anytime in the near future. I am giving it the salt and alcohol treatment now, and will fire it up tomorrow. It is just the right size that I like.
A confirmation from a true Dane. Can't beat that!