Question About This Kaywoodie Pipe

[agnosticpipe]

I've been digging through some old pipes that I've had for years that needed some restoring. I cleaned up with this Kaywoodie that I've been trying to date to some degree. The #83 shape shows up in the 1936 pipe guide from Kaywoodie as a slim octagon. However it's stamped Standard too which doesn't seem to be used until 1955. It's also stamped Made in England and has a small clover on the top of the stem. It has a 4 hole stinger but no stampings on the stinger itself. Maybe the pipes made in England used the classification Standard earlier? I looks like the pipes made from about 1936-1940 though. Any thoughts?

 

[xrundog]

Normally I’d say a Standard with a two digit shape code and a 4 hole stinger is a 50s pipe. But the writings available pertain to American pipes. The English Kaywoodie kind of did their own thing. So what you perceive as earlier markings are just…different. Ditto shapes. I think English manufacturers had some different shapes. And American production dates might not apply to them at all. Until someone proves otherwise , I’m saying it’s a 1950ish pipe.

 

[agnosticpipe]

You could be right. This shape is shown in the 1946 Kaywoodie Pipe chart, but I'm sure they could have been making the same shape up through the 1950s. I had an English made Kaywoodie years ago, but it had a regular push stem. I wonder who made this pipe with the screw in stinger stem in England. Kaywoodie's have an interesting history for sure.

 

[Wisps77]

I've been digging through some old pipes that I've had for years that needed some restoring. I cleaned up with this Kaywoodie that I've been trying to date to some degree. The #83 shape shows up in the 1936 pipe guide from Kaywoodie as a slim octagon. However it's stamped Standard too which doesn't seem to be used until 1955. It's also stamped Made in England and has a small clover on the top of the stem. It has a 4 hole stinger but no stampings on the stinger itself. Maybe the pipes made in England used the classification Standard earlier? I looks like the pipes made from about 1936-1940 though. Any thoughts?

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