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Mar 6, 2010
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I was just wondering what you consider yourself politically. I consider myself to be a sort of democratic socialist (oh boy am I gonna regret saying that). The reason being that I lived in Europe for a while and just loved the way that countries ran themselves over there, particularly Sweden.

 

chuckw

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Oct 7, 2009
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To each his own. That's what makes the world go around. I'm a fiscal conservative and a political centrist on most topics, much like Ronald Reagan. For what it may be worth, I thought Bill Clinton was a good President on the whole.

 

sapo59

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Dec 29, 2009
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Well...As much as the administrator of this particular site does not care for political posts her goes nothing. First off When I woke up this morning I was still in the United States of America. Where I was born with certain rights and liberties set forth by the bill of right and the constitution of the United States of America. Many of great American men have shed their blood in belief that I may keep those rights and privileges. So my freind if you like the way a socialist government runs a country, Go back to that country. I have served this great country to the utmost of my abilities and am particularly saddened that one of my fellow countrymen has such an outlook on politics. GO BACK TO SWEDEN. SORRY MHO!!!;

 

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I remember learning that one of the founding fathers advised to keep our nose out of other countries business - advice we never heeded and I think we should have.
I believe in free markets.
I believe in survival of the fittest.
Unfortunately, I seem to find more examples against these than for.

 

jonesing

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Feb 11, 2010
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Personal Liberty
Individual responsibility
Small Government
Pretty much a libertarian.
I think the far right and the far left both seek to impose their personal agenda on the masses and therefore I reject them out of hand.

 
Mar 6, 2010
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I don't mean to tread on anyone's political beliefs, I just started a thread to see what peoples political opinions are. Don't get me wrong, this is the greatest country on the face of the earth, and I know you'll agree with me on this one: it needs some help. Contrary to what you might think, I don't like Obama or the democrats (I guess I don't really like republicans either), I simply like the thought of spreading the wealth around more. And as chuckw said, to each his own, I'm not pushing my beliefs on anyone.

 

cutshot

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Mar 19, 2010
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I am a conservative that believes in the free enterprise system and also in small government. God Bless the USA!

 

dudleydipstick

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Dec 13, 2009
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I believe in a mutual respect of rights and self-governance.
I believe government and enterprise should exist independently of one another. The same goes for political action committees. I really don't like the fact that groups like Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids and M.A.D.D. are partly funded by taxes and, in a sense, are a branch of government.
I also believe that the only free markets in America are lemonade stands, yard sales, and drug dealing. People condemn capitalism here and a lot of them have never experienced the real thing.
I also don't give a damn whether my neighbor shoots heroin into his veins and rents a hooker every night. What I do mind is if, in the course of enforcing a law against a victimless crime, my door gets kicked in and my window gets a flash grenade through it because someone made a mistake and got the wrong house.
We're already doing a miserably fantastic job of spreading the wealth.
Libertarian all the way. If I voted differently it would just be shitting where I eat.
Wow, that all sounded kind of arrogant, but I make no apologies.
Anyway, Melikepipealot, don't be discouraged. All the threads on here that don't pertain to politics are very friendly.

 

chuckw

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In a nutshell. Liberty: The right to do as I please as long as that doesn't interfere with your right to do as you please.

 

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One of the best descriptions I've heard for one of the main problems we have with politicians was said by Tom Price when he was talking about the "jobs bill".
The reality is this administration is a lost cause when it comes to job creation. They have no appreciation for the economic principles that have made us the greatest nation in the history of the world. They reject free-markets because they don’t understand them. They rely on government because it is all they know.
This is an administration made up almost entirely of academics, lawyers, bureaucrats, and career politicians. They cannot create private sector jobs because virtually none of them has ever run a business – never created a private sector job – never signed the front side of paycheck.
Source:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35723

 

oppie

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Mar 12, 2010
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Probably best I stay out of this one. For fear of offending. But here's something to think about:

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." Marcus Cicero wrote that in 58 BC!!!!

 

jonesing

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This could better fit under favorite movie lines. This is my favorite scene ever in any movie. I like it best because at the end Will says "....if you got a problem with that, I mean we could just step outside and figure it out"
Bar scene Goodwill Hunting.
Will: Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished readin' some Marxian historian -- Pete Garrison probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to James Lemon, and then you're gonna be talkin' about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year -- you're gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin' about, you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.
Clark: Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social --
Will: Wood drastically -- Wood 'drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.' You got that from Vickers, 'Work in Essex County,' page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you...is that your thing? You come into a bar. You read some obscure passage and then pretend...you pawn it off as your own idea just to impress some girls and embarrass my friend? See the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One: don't do that. And two: You dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a f----n' education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library.

 

pipesmoker34

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Mar 21, 2010
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All I would say in this topic,Iam a 912er,and a glen beck fan,so I think you know where i stand,even with are diff. we have something in common we are all brothers of the briar

 
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