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sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
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the '70% of adult smokers want to quit'* link doesn't even reference any of the studies they use. And how do they arrive at one in five deaths are due to smoking? Is that just that one in five people who die were smokers? I know smoking is bad for me, but one thing I've learnt in life is that there are 'lies, damn lies and statistics'.

*What about child smokers? I guess they're quite happy with the habit.
Well, it is known that many people that died from say, a heart attack, got counted as smoking-related deaths if they were a smoker, even if they ate 30 double quarter pounders from McDonald's every day for 30 years... all with no investigation as to whether or not the smoking was the primary cause of the heart attack or just a secondary contributing factor with something else being the primary factor (like poor diet and lack of exercise).

I'm not trying to diminish the negative health risks of smoking cigarettes, but the numbers are fudged and have been for a long time. Anti-smoking doesn't care about facts or reality.

A good example are those "Truth" anti-smoking commercials. One such commercial many years ago had a giant cat on top of a tube and when someone pushed the button, the cat statue would urinate, at which point they would give you the fact that "cigarette smoke contains urea, which is also found in cat urine!"

While technically true, it's misleading and trying to associate cigarettes with cat urine due to the beliefs about cat waste in particular causing disease. What they don't tell you is that urea is also found in all meats and most vegetables (though in very small quantities) and that all mammals produce it naturally and the body uses it for processing nitrogen, and it's relatively non-toxic (or at least, non-lethal... though as the saying goes anything can be deadly and it's "the dose that makes the poison"). However, I don't know how much urea is contained in cigarette smoke or how much extra a person gets from smoking. Though I do know urea can be irritating to the skin and mucus membranes, but I don't know the quantity necessary for that to happen.

That's not to say that tobacco and cigarette companies didn't engage in misleading or false information for a long time, they certainly did. But anyone with an agenda to push, they're going to push in whatever way they can.
 
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warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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That's not to say that tobacco and cigarette companies didn't engage in misleading or false information for a long time, they certainly did. But anyone with an agenda to push, they're going to push in whatever way they can.
Yup, both the antis and pros are capable of lies and near truths. Wanna be smokers need to study and weigh the pros and cons, risk v. reward, including family med history before making an informed decision as to whether to smoke or not. And, when I write of studying both sides I'm not talking about those, many here, who offer as pluses?benefits of the pie only their own anecdotal observations. Serious studies complete with methodology, coupled with family histories and such. An informed decision is important when the prospective smoker has dependents and is considering such a selfish decision.

But, I am of the opinion that everyone deserves a vice. Just be selective of what that wee vice is and how it may impact others.
 
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Jef

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 10, 2019
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I still smoke my Camels. I would love to give cigarettes up completely but I just don't have the time to smoke a pipe exclusively. I still work 12 hr shifts and only get several 15 minute breaks during that time. Just don't have the time for a pipe. I don't smoke in the house or the car. Running errands or shopping with the wife does not give me the time for a pipe.

When I am at home I smoke the pipe outside and am completely content with it. But as many of you know ....standing outside smoking in the cold sux. Plus, when nerves, decissions, or lack of time hit I reach for the cigarettes. I retire in a year. I hope when a lot of the daily stress goes away, so will the cigarettes. I enjoy the taste of my pipes much more.

Jef
 
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dctune

Part of the Furniture Now
dctune you can't continue with those, because the Surgeon General will tell you that over use of candy cigarettes will make you prone to Diabetes.
I also love Coke (NO PEPSI). Don’t tell the government that either. I swear they just sit around and ask each other, “So what is it that people just really enjoy? Let’s go after that!”
 

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Lifer
Jun 11, 2020
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Pittsburgh, PA USA
I still smoke my Camels. I would love to give cigarettes up completely but I just don't have the time to smoke a pipe exclusively. I still work 12 hr shifts and only get several 15 minute breaks during that time. Just don't have the time for a pipe. I don't smoke in the house or the car. Running errands or shopping with the wife does not give me the time for a pipe.

When I am at home I smoke the pipe outside and am completely content with it. But as many of you know ....standing outside smoking in the cold sux. Plus, when nerves, decissions, or lack of time hit I reach for the cigarettes. I retire in a year. I hope when a lot of the daily stress goes away, so will the cigarettes. I enjoy the taste of my pipes much more.

Jef
Try some Five Brothers in a cob (it's a dry shag burley). You should be able to easily fit that into a 15 minute break (unless you have to walk too far to do it), and it carries a good nic punch. You should smoke it gently (can get harsh if puffed too hard), but it'll still burn down pretty quick.