Piper vs Pipesmoker

[clickklick]

This was more of a tongue and cheek thread as I really don't care for being trivial. I just pondered taking the word "smoke" out of the equation is a newer trend and I don't feel it has been done to just shorten the word.
I read an article in P&T magazine a few issues back and I believe Ben Rappaport touched on this as well. It left an impression on me. If we remove smoke from our "title" we are conforming to the anti smoking friendly group. Kind of like Dunhill did when they went to removing their Dunhill name from "smoking" pipes and were just marking the "The White Spot". (Or planning to, not a Dunhill collector so don't really know how that all turned out).

 

[warren]

You started an interesting thread. I tend to agree with you. Damned OED!

 

[mso489]

Being one of the Forums blabber mouthes (speaking of my number of posts) I have often avoided using "piper," though I am sometimes tempted from laziness, after typing out pipe smoker many a time. I may have even caved and used "piper" for pipe smoker -- but my habit is to avoid it. He who pays the piper calls the tune, an old adage.

 

[phil67]

Well, if piper is an acceptable term I also smoke cigarettes so it then stands to reason that I could be called a cigaretter?

 

[deathmetal]

"Baccy" is the word that grates on my brain like fingernails on a chalkboard.

It's childspeak, very common and infectious on the internet, like how people used to refer to an email address as an "addy."
These terms are usually used by normal, decent people who have been infected by the insanity. Despite the temptation to put a footy in their assy, restraint must be employed.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Lots of words bug us Southerners. Cart, instead of buggy. Cart is just too... uncooth. Pecan is said pecawn, not pee-can, which is what truck drivers use to keep from having to stop to piss. And, pop, instead of cola or soda. While all Alabamians just call everything Coke, which kind of bugs me, even though I've heard it my whole life.

 

[dcrguns]

I got my pilot license in a Piper. I guess that makes me a Piper pilot. I smoke a pipe, so could I be a pipe pilot? I think I will go pilot my pipe for a bit.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I guess I'm an occasional cigarer.

 

[deathmetal]

Cosmic: same is true in Texas.

Host: You want a Coke?

Guest: Please.

Host: What kind? I got Seven-Up, Dr Pepper and that Wal-mart Pepsi clone.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

My daughters even call those cans of tea, coke. Ugg

 

[pappymac]

Soda? Isn't that what those society barbarians put in their whiskey because they can't handle it straight?

 

[fafnir]

Well I dare say you ought to call me a puffing pipe smoker, but refrain from calling me a puffen.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"an old adage."
MSO, there is no such thing as a old adage, an adage by its very nature is old. A common mistake to make :wink:
Regards,
Jay.

 

[mso489]

maw', good point. One of those redundancies that attaches to words out of bad habit. I'm always flinching at those, but now I've perpetuated one.
My all time linguistic allergy is when often educated, sometimes scientific and even medical people, who from the podium use schizophrenic to mean "of two minds." If they want a mental health image, they might use split or multiple personality. Schizophrenic thought is fragmented, but not divided into two opposing sides on issues. If it were simple ignorance, I'd just shrug, but this happens mostly with people who are educated and have all of the means and reasons to know better. Some of them have the responsibility to know better. I can't even correct them privately afterwards; I'm too hacked off.
I joke that the term "dysfunctional family" is a redundancy.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

If we can't say "old adage" then I''m still going to thwart "baccy." :wink:

 

[ophiuchus]

I was worried about the dogmatic nature of the beginning of this thread, but it evidently evolved into a very interesting discussion (with the expected diversion).
With regards to an article, particularly one that was meant to be informative, in a magazine or book or in the featured, edited content of this website, I can understand some protectiveness over language and nomenclature. But jeeeez ... this is merely a public forum attached to a content-oriented website. We're not writing articles here (not all of us, anyway), we're having a conversation. So a lot of this is just picking fly shit out of pepper.
When I write journalistically, I edit. I cut out long words, shorten phrases, check the proper use of words and terms, double-check facts and figures ... and then I hand it over to another pair of eyes with a brain attached to repeat process. Then rewrite. Though I try to make reasonable effort proofreading forum posts, I've promised myself not to attempt to edit them. You lose the colloquial nature of discussion, a lot of expressions (and common malapropisms) are lost ... and it wastes too much fucking time.
I think "baccy" is cute, like, "I was fishin' smokin' some 'baccy when a muskie snapped up a baby ducky." It is an expression I will no doubt drop in future posts.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The way forums work is that when someone says, "stop doing this thing." What they are really saying is,"here's my annoyance button, if you post this thing you can control me."

At no time is it advisable to actually stop doing that "thing." In fact, for the health and well being of the entire forum, you are supposed to actually start doing that "thing' more often with more vigor, knowing that we are helping that person with the "thing" problem.

This is actually true of all of society. We have to help people with problems with "things" by increasing our "thing" usage with passion and vigor.

You're welcome. ::

 

[deathmetal]

The future belongs to the trolls.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Trolls? How uncouth. I prefer the term, goat powered bridge dweller.

 

[clickklick]

What if there are no goats around?