Pipe tobacco and cancer
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Anecdotal information this: My Physician says there is no concern of developing cancer associated with smoking my pipe. Another Physician asked me if I smoked... I told him that I smoke a pipe; his response:" Good."
I don't think you could have "hard" evidence. There are a lot of factors that go in to ones health such as diet, living conditions, family medical history etc. All of those things can contribute to cancer, as can pipe smoking. However I think it would be difficult to say with 100% accuracy that someone died of cancer soley based on their pipe tobacco use.
I'm no doctor, thats just my 2 cents.
I'm no doctor, thats just my 2 cents.
Even the so-called "hard evidence" on the number of deaths per year caused by cigarettes is just a number picked out of the air...it seems to me if you've ever smoked, and you die, well, tobacco is obviously the culprit in the eyes of the antis/gov't.
statistics are said only to be created to support any argument.
Americans are brainwashed through the years to be obsessed with longevity of life since the facts of Reincarnation are subdued in all teachings.
Americans are brainwashed through the years to be obsessed with longevity of life since the facts of Reincarnation are subdued in all teachings.
My 81 year old Father in law smoked 4-6 packs of cigarettes a day from the age of 14 until he passed away.
He died after a series of strokes spread out over almost two years.
Smoking was listed as the cause of his "early" demise, and yes that figures into the governments statistics of smoking related death.
In order to push their anti smoking agenda, if you smoke and you die, you will be listed in the statistics as a smoking related death pretty much no matter the cause.
So, finding any real evidence from the official studies is pretty much impossible when everything is skewed to conform to an agenda.
He died after a series of strokes spread out over almost two years.
Smoking was listed as the cause of his "early" demise, and yes that figures into the governments statistics of smoking related death.
In order to push their anti smoking agenda, if you smoke and you die, you will be listed in the statistics as a smoking related death pretty much no matter the cause.
So, finding any real evidence from the official studies is pretty much impossible when everything is skewed to conform to an agenda.
And congrats on your 2,000th post Hobie!
Why thanks guys....they were all fun....I think. :crazy: :mrgreen:
Why thanks guys....they were all fun....I think. :crazy: :mrgreen:
Congrats Hobie! :clap:
I'm as cynical as the next guy, and generally distrustful of statistics;
but one has to acknowledge the relationship between some forms of tobacco
use and some cancers, arteriosclerosis, emphysema and cardio-pulmonary disease.
The real issue is whether we should be allowed to make our own risk-benefit
decisions, or have a civil GOVERNMENT impose its will on us. On this, I'm
pro-choice.
As an aside, I am now the principal care-giver to my 88-yr-old mother, who never
smoked, but was exposed to 2nd hand smoke since, well, conception! She's still
healthy and active, but the reward for surviving 88 yrs is a world of chronic pain
and fading mental capacity. When my doctor tells me that I can expect an
extra 10 yrs of life if I stop smoking, I tell him he can have my extra 10 yrs. :crazy:
I'm as cynical as the next guy, and generally distrustful of statistics;
but one has to acknowledge the relationship between some forms of tobacco
use and some cancers, arteriosclerosis, emphysema and cardio-pulmonary disease.
The real issue is whether we should be allowed to make our own risk-benefit
decisions, or have a civil GOVERNMENT impose its will on us. On this, I'm
pro-choice.
As an aside, I am now the principal care-giver to my 88-yr-old mother, who never
smoked, but was exposed to 2nd hand smoke since, well, conception! She's still
healthy and active, but the reward for surviving 88 yrs is a world of chronic pain
and fading mental capacity. When my doctor tells me that I can expect an
extra 10 yrs of life if I stop smoking, I tell him he can have my extra 10 yrs. :crazy:
I haven't smoked much for a couple of years due to a dry eye problem. My ophthalmologist suggested spending less time in smoky environs and it seemed to have helped. I miss it though and plan on lighting up a bowl tonight.
However, my GF starts chemo on Thursday, she just got through with breast cancer surgery (doing very well, caught it early) so she has the final say in this. However she loves the smell of the pipe.
However, my GF starts chemo on Thursday, she just got through with breast cancer surgery (doing very well, caught it early) so she has the final say in this. However she loves the smell of the pipe.
Here is some excellent data on Pipe Smoking and Health:
http://pipedia.org/index.php?title=Pipe_Smoking_Health#Pipe_Smoking_and_Health
Right under where it says (near the top) A review of the medical literature, for the use of pipe smokers and health care professionals. you can click for a pdf of the report.
Here is a line from another report -
http://pipedia.org/index.php?title=Pipe_Smoking_Health#Pipe_Smoking_and_Health
Right under where it says (near the top) A review of the medical literature, for the use of pipe smokers and health care professionals. you can click for a pdf of the report.
Here is a line from another report -
That's an interesting read. Seems to be about 60/40. You can assign what ever you like to that ratio. Which seems to be just about what those "conclusions" are doing.
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