Pipe Smoking Conundrum

[proteus]

I should state smoking in CT is banned in most public spaces including state parks and other government owned properties. However the law allows for municipalities and police to interpret the law in a way that would ban walking down sidewalk in residential area smoking. Remember smoking cannabis, vaping, or smoking tobacco is all treated the same now in CT.

Where can I smoke? Here are the rules for legalized marijuana - https://www.ctpost.com/business/danhaar/article/Where-can-I-smoke-Here-are-the-rules-for-16258065.php

 

[proteus]

View attachment 235818 per forum rules !

What rule?

 

[Rossi320]

Ok what I meant is if you could go back what would you different and say to yourself....don't try this or buy this...start out with this. I wish I didn't start out with aromatic flavors..and a pipe or too or a pipe rack...I would just consentait on tobaccos

 

[Hillcrest]

What rule?

No swearing, bad language or political disparagement. I guess I'm a scofflaw now as I smoke wherever I want !

 

[proteus]

No swearing, bad language or political disparagement. I guess I'm a scofflaw now as I smoke wherever I want !

I did not swear or use bad language or disparage anything politically. Maybe I'm not understanding. I only connected public pipe smoking with my understanding of my own state's laws.

 

[anotherbob]

I only saw referenecs to laws predating our new cannabis laws that went into effect I think in 2020 or 2021 and which tie tobacco vaping and cannabis together and make smoking of any kind regulated in new ways curtailing where and when it is legal to smoke anything. The 25 to 50 foot law does not provide exception to sidewalks or anything else. Strictly speaking it is entirely distance based relating to entryways, working windows and air vents.

Yet according to the state that's not the law. I think there is a good chance as often happens with these things the person writing the article didn't understand the law completely (which is like super easy to do). Laws are kind of weirder then people think. Even if that is what the law says on paper, the next question is how is it enforced? Including what situations they have a right to enforce it. I don't know how to be super clear but I am going to talk about public nudity laws. In some areas it's just illegal to show certain things in public, in my state you literally have to bother someone with it. Which legally means the police can't do anything until they get a complaint. I guess my point is it doesn't seem like they are going through with that part of it and even if they are the big question is what are they allowing themselves to do about it.
Also noticed that all the other provisions seemed to have direct consequences written in (fines etc...) and that part just seems not to.
Just for fun also reminds me of in the town I live in you're not allowed to burn anything in your yard. Legally you can't set a small piece of string on fire. But the way the law actually works is that if you do set the neighborhood on fire it doesn't matter how you did it. The fire marshal explained it to me that basically if you're being safe it doesn't matter but if you do cause a serious fire they don't have to prove anything beyond you made a fire.
Just how it looks to me, but what do I know. Still doesn't seem to add up.

 

[anotherbob]

I did not swear or use bad language or disparage anything politically. Maybe I'm not understanding. I only connected public pipe smoking with my understanding of my own state's laws.

technically no vape talk at all on this site. So don't tell the mods that technically smoking is just the oldest form of vaping (when you smoke your pipe you're basically using the burning tobacco to vape the nearby tobacco, once you burn it you kill all the nicotine, other chemicals, and oils.

 

[Hillcrest]

I did not swear or use bad language or disparage anything politically. Maybe I'm not understanding. I only connected public pipe smoking with my understanding of my own state's laws.

Yes you misunderstood ... I was saying humorously (or so I thought) that "I" can't express what I think about that law because the first words that come to mind would be ... impolite. Not to you. To Hartford ! I wasn't aware we had gotten that communist. You're fine. Sorry for confusing you.

 

[Hillcrest]

I'll have to be more careful about lighting up in certain areas to avoid the behavior police. I did notice there are more cameras being put up everywhere from intersections to roadsides etc. Even the utilities have cameras now to monitor their lines. The 'Lineman for the County" now sits at a monitor I guess.
Its an unreasonable intrusion into our lives.

 

[olkofri]

I'll have to be more careful about lighting up in certain areas to avoid the behavior police. I did notice there are more cameras being put up everywhere from intersections to roadsides etc. Even the utilities have cameras now to monitor their lines. The 'Lineman for the County" now sits at a monitor I guess.
Its an unreasonable intrusion into our lives.

Eh, just wear a mask and fool them cameras.

 

[Hillcrest]

Eh, just wear a mask and fool them cameras.

A second one ?

 

[sardonicus87]

We've had a law here for a long time with regards to smoking once they changed it that an establishment had to be either all smoking, or all non-smoking (in this way, instead of a blanket public ban, you could still smoke in a bar for example if the bar allowed it). Previously you could have a smoking and non-smoking section as long as the smoking section had negative air pressure relative to everywhere else.

That said, I'm personally not against the ideas or laws about being a certain distance from entryways or public sidewalks. I actually agree with it in general. I think it should be fine in a public park for example, so long as you stand away from main gathering areas and paths and you don't litter. Though I think some situations need to be discretionary... like walking down a sidewalk, if nobody else is around, maybe you don't enforce it.

I've always gone out of my way to stand away from others when smoking. Even as a cigarette smoker, I hate second-hand smoke.

I think the law needs a little more though. Like a provision that if you've gone out of your way to not bother anyone else with it and someone else goes out of their way to waddle up to you to tell you how it's bad for you or complain, then you get to punch them one time in the face.