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endlesssouth

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Can anyone help me with identifying what shapes these pipes are? My attempt at it is below. Thanks!

1. Ball
2. Bent Billiard
3. Billiard
4.
5.
6. Pot
7.
8. Dublin
9.
10. Lumberman
 
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sablebrush52

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wyfbane

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This is why I love this thing of our. I read down the thread going, Yes! I agree with this guy. Hmm. Well Shit, I agree with this guy. Hmm, wait. This guy is right. haha. So I mishmashed all the other guys and came up with this:

1. Quarter bent Apple
2. Half Bent Apple
3. Billiard
4. Zulu or Yachtsman
5. Half Bent Apple
6. Panel Billiard
7. Half Bent Billiard
8. Dublin
9. Quarter Bent Chubby Billiard
10. Pretty long stemmed for a Lumberman. You could get away with that, or the Saddle stem billiard.
 

Pipe & a walk

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This is why I love this thing of our. I read down the thread going, Yes! I agree with this guy. Hmm. Well Shit, I agree with this guy. Hmm, wait. This guy is right. haha. So I mishmashed all the other guys and came up with this:

1. Quarter bent Apple
2. Half Bent Apple
3. Billiard
4. Zulu or Yachtsman
5. Half Bent Apple
6. Panel Billiard
7. Half Bent Billiard
8. Dublin
9. Quarter Bent Chubby Billiard
10. Pretty long stemmed for a Lumberman. You could get away with that, or the Saddle stem billiard.
It also may be that a few of the photos on the OP aren't the clearest/have shadows

Manufacturers don't make it easy either, identical pipes are labelled differently by different makers.
For instance:
vs

&
vs

The only thing that I am certain of is that the straight billiard is the best shape:)
 

OzPiper

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I thought the difference was that bulldog's had a square stem and rhodesian's had round stems?
That is the generally accepted definition now.

Different makers had their own interpretation.
Some accept only straight Bulldogs. All bents were designated “Rhodesians” irregardless of whether they had round or diamond shanks.

A real can of worms
 

Pipe & a walk

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I would've thought that as well were it not for this.
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A lumberman is a longshanked saddle stemmed billiard, no? If not, what's the difference.

The description of the article you cite-"A Lumberman is...a round shank, saddle bit" is not what I understood a lumberman was.

This article states that a lumberman should have an oval shank- https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/canadian-pipe-shapes

I think we'd need a #10 top view of the shank to know if it's oval or round.

Not trying to argue, but to learn.
 
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endlesssouth

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A lumberman is a longshanked saddle stemmed billiard, no? If not, what's the difference.

The description of the article you cite-"A Lumberman is...a round shank, saddle bit" is not what I understood a lumberman was.

This article states that a lumberman should have an oval shank- https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/canadian-pipe-shapes

I think we'd need a #10 top view of the shank to know if it's oval or round.

Not trying to argue, but to learn.
The shank on 10 is oval
 

Chasing Embers

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A lumberman is a longshanked saddle stemmed billiard, no? If not, what's the difference.

The description of the article you cite-"A Lumberman is...a round shank, saddle bit" is not what I understood a lumberman was.

This article states that a lumberman should have an oval shank- https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/canadian-pipe-shapes

I think we'd need a #10 top view of the shank to know if it's oval or round.

Not trying to argue, but to learn.
It just depends who you ask really. Some say that a bulldog is a rhodesian and a rhodesian is a bulldog. Even if the shank were round, it's out of proportion with the bowl to be a billiard and the stem is too long to be a lovat.
 
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