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jpmcwjr

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I'm surmising that Mark Irwin wrote the blog piece, referenced in the o.p., asserting it had to be a Pete. It clearly is not, but Mark's forthcoming book will be full of them. One can understand his enthusiasm for the Peterson line as to why he jumped to conclusions.

 

yaddy306

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My best guess is a Leonessa.

Stamping is similar.

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newbroom

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"a cheap pipe"...."more likely a Lorenzo"....

HUH?...MY Lorenzo wasn't expensive, but I wouldn't describe it as cheap. It is one of my best smokers!

I'd go with a Mr.Brog or a knock off from a country with oppressed laborers. No dust masks or fire escapes.

 

blueeyedogre

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Anyone notice in the last scene that Holmes and Watson were carrying on a conversation while smoke steadily rose from the pipe bowls? Holmes was smoking a black clay, by the bowl, as smoke streamed out of it. My guess is that the smoke was CGI added afterwards as anyone that has ever smoked a clay knows that there is now way you could hold a clay by the bowl smoking that fast. The thing would be crazy hot. Not a big deal to me as I still love the show I just thought it was humorous that I caught it were a non pipe smoker never would. Like a gun guy knowing someone shot one more round then a certain pistol holds. lol

 

pylorns

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good find @yaddy306 That looks really really close.
@jpmcwjr hence Why I snapped the pic with the Peterson guys and showed them the pics, then talked to the Italian makers at IPCPR.
@bigpond I'm not a huge twitter guy but... I'll reach out and see.

 

ophiuchus

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Boy, Sherlock's pipe does look like a Lorenzo Spitfire of a Leonessa, doesn't it?
:puffpipe: -Hmmmm ...

 

pylorns

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@r - if you look back at the Peterson Pipe notes you'll see my back and forth with him hence why I talked to Peterson directly at IPCPR this past year.
Did more google search and came across another post on the RPF another forum I'm a member of with another confirmation of the Leonessa:

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=99321&page=2

 

yaddy306

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The "Made In Italy" is pretty clear, so I looked up Pipedia.org for Italian pipes that start with "L", discounted the ones that weren't one word long, and then looked at the ones that are in the "budget" range (assuming the props guy didn't want to spend $400). That's how I got to Leonessa.
Never actually heard of the brand, personally.

 

pylorns

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Ah I thought you had firm confirmation. I never say never until I hear it for certain from someone in the know.. so still waiting.... but I think this is the closest we're gonna get unless someone gets back to me.

 

krizzose

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The Grenada TV Jeremy Brett series showed Holmes with his briar pipe, clay pipe, and his cherrywood churchwarden, all described in the ACD stories.
I was disappointed by the Cumberbatch series using that bent briar in the Xmas special. It honestly felt like they sent someone down to the props department to get a pipe, any pipe. Given that series' multiple allusions to the ACD canon, as well as the brief camera shot/theme song (panning across Baker St to settle on the second floor of 221b) homage to the Grenada/Brett series in the Xmas special, I was also rather surprised by that embarrassing whiff on detail.

 

jpmcwjr

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Quite so, Kriz. They could at least banged it up, charred the rim, and blurred out the nomenclature with dirt or buffing!
Real Q: Is the stem quite wrong for the period? (1890)

 
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