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strongcity

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It may well be that this is not the correct thread for such a post, since while I am selling my collection, I am not yet prepared to list the pipes, as I am not knowledgeable enough to price these pipes or to have a good idea of where the best place may be to sell them. For example, one item is a matched set in case of Barling's Make unsmoked, which I believe may be from around 1920, or so. Others are along the line of mint or unsmoked Dunhills, Sasieni, etc., including Fantails, 2-dots, panels, 8-dots, and so on. If I should post this elsewhere, please pardon my ignorance. Thanks for your forbearance.

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There are a number of very knowledgeable folks here on these pipe types. Sablebrush wrote the book on Barlings and certainly knows a ton about those other pipe brands you mentioned.
 

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Yes ,there will be many people with lots of knowledge about selling them. Many will probably suggest Pipe stud. However you don't have enough posts to sell anything on the forum here.
 

sablebrush52

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First thing - do NOTHING in haste.
Look at these two sites to start gathering information about what you have:

If other items in your collection are on the same order as an unsmoked 1920's era Barling companion set (we're into low 4 figures with that alone), consider taking out a subscription to Worthpoint:

There are dealers for estates, but you will do better if you have some idea regarding the market value of your collection, and what dealer price is versus retail. I've seen some very strange valuations on pipes, so check out whatever track record you can find.

Information and patience are your friends here.
 

strongcity

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Thanks to you all for the kind advice. I was able to find some sales from about 6-8 years ago. Of course, I'll search some more (...taking no haste), but it does seem like about a dozen of the pipes I have do not come up for sale very often at all any more. Would it be a safe assumption that over this period of time these pipes are becoming more rare on the market, and if so would that likely make some of them more valuable than the older sales records show? And, I'm also assuming it is better to sell them individually (ebay being the best place?), since I discovered consignment percentages of sale are quite expensive.
 

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" For example, one item is a matched set in case of Barling's Make unsmoked, which I believe may be from around 1920, or so."

Jesse already has one or two of those, so send it to me for evaluation.... :)

Yes, I'd strongly suspect that really rare pieces have appreciated in value. I personally dislike eBay, but pay no attention to my druthers, but there are some traps.
 

ashdigger

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Thanks to you all for the kind advice. I was able to find some sales from about 6-8 years ago. Of course, I'll search some more (...taking no haste), but it does seem like about a dozen of the pipes I have do not come up for sale very often at all any more. Would it be a safe assumption that over this period of time these pipes are becoming more rare on the market, and if so would that likely make some of them more valuable than the older sales records show? And, I'm also assuming it is better to sell them individually (ebay being the best place?), since I discovered consignment percentages of sale are quite expensive.

Consignment sellers take a cut BECAUSE they get good strong traffic. If you have a low Ebay selling history you will not do near as well as consignment sellers.

I have no skin in the good except to say, good luck.
 
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strongcity

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@ashdigger - thanks for the insight regarding consignment; I hadn't considered that aspect. As a matter of fact, I've never sold on ebay, though I've got a good buyer history - which isn't really of much relevance. I am preparing to set up a CC only ebay seller account for HiFi gear, comic books, and so on. So I had thought that while I was at it, I'd list most of the pipes. I'll give it some more thought. It would probable take me quite awhile to get up to the 100 posts here (legitimate posts).
 

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This is the wrong forum - you can't post here without forum time and a 100 post count. I'd suggest a pipe consignment seller, like our own "pipestud", someone like that will get your best bang for the buck and avoid rip offs and other similar Ebay problems.
Moved this to "Pipe Talk".
 

sablebrush52

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Would it be a safe assumption that over this period of time these pipes are becoming more rare on the market, and if so would that likely make some of them more valuable than the older sales records show? And, I'm also assuming it is better to sell them individually (ebay being the best place?), since I discovered consignment percentages of sale are quite expensive.
In the 12 years that I have been tracking prices on vintage British pipes, my impression is that by and large, prices on these have fallen by about 30%.
My guess would be that more expendable money is going into cellaring tobaccos before they become unavailable and less is going into buying pipes. Some of the action that was precipitated by Asian buyers has leveled off.
There are a number of factors that determine the value of a pipe, of which rarity is only one. Besides rarity there is the matter of condition, and how much of a market a specific brand commands.
For example, 10 years ago a Barling pipe like this one:
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would have fetched between $900 and $1200 on ebay. Recently they have been going for between $600 and $900. And there are any number of similar drops in price among the major British brands, including Sasieni, Comoy, Charatan and Dunhill.
Prices have also softened across other areas of the market.

One other method of selling your collection that has not been mentioned is renting a table at a major pipe show, specifically the Chicagoland pipe show, and selling them yourself. One friend of mine did a good five figures at the last show. He did his homework, and knew what market prices were for the pipes he was going to sell. He priced his pipes attractively and sold a lot of them.

eBay can be unpredictable and results largely depend on providing an excellent presentation, the key to which is excellent photography. It just depends on how much work you are willing to commit to, vs how much your return will be on that work.

Selling off the collection en mass to a dealer is the simplest approach but it comes at a price. Dealers need to make their money and they're entitled to given that they have their money tied up in the stock they bought are will be making the effort to sell it. Consignment is another possibility, but you need to know what a fair evaluation is since you set the price. I'm not going to tell you what is your best option. That is entirely up to you.

But again, do nothing in haste. Learn about market values for what you have. There is no substitute for being knowledgeable.
 

strongcity

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And here I thought everything was going up. ? But then again, I often confused waning with waxing. Thanks for the excellent information. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me. Hopefully I can at least break even. Several were good snipes, though it was actually just strategic bidding or just being in the right place at the right time, while others I think bought somewhat under market. Then again, I do have a couple of pipes I may now think twice about selling. One is a '54 Tanshell LB that's about as beautiful pipe as I've seen. I've never even smoked it. I just take it out and look at it once in awhile. I wonder if I'm not the only person that does that.
 
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strongcity

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Maybe when I get some time I'll post some photos of some I like the best (not to curry interest in anything but the pipes themselves); I like 'em a lot, others might enjoy seeing them, too.
 
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jpmcwjr

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Yes, we do like viewing pipes! Hope this may help:

How to place a photo in a post:



If it's on your computer, you can drag it into the REPLY Box directly, or to the Image box (see below) after opening the dialogue box. If you are LINKING* to an image, click on the Link button and paste the URL into the box that opens. The symbol to LINK is the right hand symbol on the upper left of the box. (Looks like a tilted infinity sign.)

No need to resize, as the server will do that for you. Choose full size image, not thumbnail.

* Photos from many—even most—websites can be displayed by copying the image's URL, usually by Control-clicking onna Mac; or right-clicking on Windows, selecting the URL (often stated as "Copy Image Location" or similar words), then copy/paste that into the window.



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strongcity

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You anticipated my next question/post!. Thanks, that is exactly what I needed - saved me a lot of time searching! For insurance purposes I should have already documented my pipes, but I didn't. I'll get out my antiquated digital cam' and get some pics up next week. All the pics are on my phone and they really wouldn't be very good.
 

mso489

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If you want to make a hobby or avocation out of reselling your pipes, you may enjoy the activity. If you want to get money out of them without spending your time (which is money) there are pros who do this on commission. pipestud on Forums does this.
 

mso489

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Just opining, but detailed knowledge of the pipes and the market is everything here, and attaining the knowledge that is necessary is time consuming. I think paying a commission to someone who has the knowhow would end up netting you more than the profit and losses you'd rack up on your own. Just reading the posts here illustrate the demands of knowing what pipe you're looking at and how something quite nice can not be worth a lot, etc. An established "pipe broker" does this all the time, has a good probability of getting near top prices, and is in place and established enough to do steady business. Unless you want to train to be that person and willingly pay the price in time and losses to learn the profession. Okay, I'll zip it up. I'm with you whatever you decide and would be interested in an update of your experience.
 
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