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Chasing Embers

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We're getting a little off topic... my bad! But no, Castello actually makes a first class product and does little promoting. Bose makes a third rate product and promotes the hell out of it. puffy
Riiiigght....I've had three and can understand why Wally Frank had to talk them up to keep them from going out of business back in the '50s. Cheap plastic stems, bad drilling, lopsided shaping, and buttons big enough to open a beer bottle with. Bruto Sordini's work puts theirs to shame without any hyping.
 
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The more I think about it my stereo (seen in post #8) probably say as much about my taste in pipes as my pipes do.

While its a nice stereo, it's in no way a high end piece of equipment, the majority of its value is probably in the fact that its a very nice piece of furniture. But it's not by any stretch of the imagination a cheap piece of junk. It's got a nice warm tube tone, and at 80W its plenty for my house. It would be considered impractical to most and requires a lot of specialized maintenance that is largely not done by anyone today, so I do it myself.

This pretty well mirrors my taste in pipes, I like old pipes that most people would consider impractical, they often are estate pipes that have a ghost of some sort. They color the tobacco I smoke much like my old tube stereo colors the music I listen to, and I'm not only ok with it, I like it. I often do little things to modernize my old pipes like funneling the stem bores and cleaning up the button slotting. This makes them a little more practical, like installing Bluetooth in a 65 year old tube stereo.

I like old pipes and old stereos. I enjoy restoring things, weather that be vintage kitchen appliances, pipes, cast iron cookware, stereos, vintage guitars and amps, tools, etc. I just like old stuff, it doesn't have to be "high end" it just has to be well made.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
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We're getting a little off topic... my bad! But no, Castello actually makes a first class product and does little promoting. Bose makes a third rate product and promotes the hell out of it. puffy
Actually I wouldn't say bose is all that bad while being also all that bad. The thing is their product exploits psychoacoustics which is how the brain effects sounds. They have the right range where some peoples brains will successfully fill in the details on the highs and lows. So people who think bose sounds good, well it's all in their heads but not in their imaginations. Or in other words tells me more about their neurological sonics processing then about their ears. To compound the issue some music is mixed in a way that works better with different systems. Less then good or bad bose is niche. That said they sound terrible to me. And I always think of this joke. All mid range no highs or lows, must be Bose.
 
Actually I wouldn't say bose is all that bad while being also all that bad. The thing is their product exploits psychoacoustics which is how the brain effects sounds
The one good thing Bose did was make a speaker that sounds good when played on low volume. Our TV speakers are Bose and love them. It is sort of like those ads that tell us that earbuds don't have any real bass in them... well, if when I listen to music with bass, I hear bass through the earbuds, then what's the problem?

But, when I listen to my favorite music, I prefer analog all the way. I mean, I can't carry a record player with me in the truck to listen... but when I am driving, I am not listening to music the same way I would if I was at home focused on an album. So, I can deal with digital for just casual listening.

My turn table is 1byOne... I was gifted this last Christmas by by kids. My amp/receiver is Kenwood.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
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The one good thing Bose did was make a speaker that sounds good when played on low volume.

That's mid range. Which carries a lot of the definition. To put it in visual terms it's the shading. And one of the effects of that is at low volumes things that don't have the mids mixed at a higher volume sound muddy. So precisely one thing Bose excels at. Can also be called clarity or crispiness. The highs carry more melodic elements (color). Low end is structure it's the line and ink work.
Our TV speakers are Bose and love them. It is sort of like those ads that tell us that earbuds don't have any real bass in them... well, if when I listen to music with bass, I hear bass through the earbuds, then what's the problem?
Psycho acoustics basically your brain knows the bass is there and actually picks it out from the timbre (tone and tone works because no sound is one note but almost works like a chord there is the lowest note and then a series of other notes, and that's is a large part of why a piano and flute playing the same note sound different). Telephones work the same way. Ever notice that if you first talk to someone on the phone before meeting them in person they sound different the next time you talk to them on the phone? Your brain recognizes the voice and fills in the details it knows should be there.
But, when I listen to my favorite music, I prefer analog all the way. I mean, I can't carry a record player with me in the truck to listen... but when I am driving, I am not listening to music the same way I would if I was at home focused on an album. So, I can deal with digital for just casual listening.

My turn table is 1byOne... I was gifted this last Christmas by by kids. My amp/receiver is Kenwood.
Deep listening or really paying attention to the music requires good acoustics period.
 
That's mid range. Which carries a lot of the definition. To put it in visual terms it's the shading. And one of the effects of that is at low volumes things that don't have the mids mixed at a higher volume sound muddy. So precisely one thing Bose excels at. Can also be called clarity or crispiness. The highs carry more melodic elements (color). Low end is structure it's the line and ink work.

Psycho acoustics basically your brain knows the bass is there and actually picks it out from the timbre (tone and tone works because no sound is one note but almost works like a chord there is the lowest note and then a series of other notes, and that's is a large part of why a piano and flute playing the same note sound different). Telephones work the same way. Ever notice that if you first talk to someone on the phone before meeting them in person they sound different the next time you talk to them on the phone? Your brain recognizes the voice and fills in the details it knows should be there.

Deep listening or really paying attention to the music requires good acoustics period.
Thank you for rewording what I said and expounding upon it further. puffy Is that mansplaining? Haha.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
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Thank you for rewording what I said and expounding upon it further. puffy Is that mansplaining? Haha.
Explained the why. Thought you might appreciate or at least have some comprehension of that kind of theory. Also I am such a music nerd I even gave my solo musical project a name that references audio engineering in terms of environment and sound production.
 
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Riiiigght....I've had three and can understand why Wally Frank had to talk them up to keep them from going out of business back in the '50s. Cheap plastic stems, bad drilling, lopsided shaping, and buttons big enough to open a beer bottle with. Bruto Sordini's work puts theirs to shame without any hyping.
Are you sure you're talking about Castellos and not Costellos? puffy

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