$30k for the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony is ludicrous
Picking on Brits a Bit
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The Sacrament costs nothing. Mrs Badger and I paid a couple of hundred for the choir and the bell-ringers plus a modest donation. All the rest went on hire of reception venue, her dress, my suit, flowers, food and drink.
What I meant was it was wasted money for the couple getting married.
Yes of course the folk in the wedding business made their money but the couple who lash out $30k certainly didn't get value for money if they divorce 5 years down the line which was my point.
As an aside, it always humours me when I see/read of folk getting wed in some old manor house wearing hired clothes, it just seems so fake to me.
If I were to take the plunge (which I never have but almost did twice) it would have been at a local register office wearing my own clothes as would the poor unfortunate woman that was getting hitched to me.
Finish the day with a nice meal in a restaurant then that's it, job done
Jay.
$30k is just the average. Many wedding cost a tad north of $120k, and probably most have weddings at their homes or in public spaces that don't cost money. I don't Joe Schmoe the bag boy at the grocery store is having a $30k wedding.
Even at $10k that seems expensive to me, but then I am a Yorkshireman and we're well known for having very shallow pockets
"As of 2023, the average wedding cost — including both the ceremony and reception — was $35,000, according to The Knot. However, the majority of those who responded to our survey (52%) said their big day cost less than $10,000. Just 20% of those surveyed spent more than $30,000 on their wedding".
Jay.
My wife and I were married by a pastor friend of ours just in front of our kids and dogs. Then we had a nice long honeymoon in the mountains at our cabin. When we returned we rented our favorite restaurant for a party for just 20% gratuity for staff that worked that day. The reception space and staffing merely cost us $2000 in all, but the one thing that pissed me off was a pipe club member that was invited drank the two bottles of $800 wine that I had purchased for toasts. I don't remember how much we spent on the honeymoon, but we were pretty close to $10K.
My niece just got married in her backyard, and my sister spent a week hanging these neat lights, with a mix mash of aged wooden chairs and tables that were obviously old and worn for a unique country setting for the wedding. The bride rode in on her horse, which was a nice touch. It probably costs about $10K with my sister doing most of the work.
$10K isn't really that much, about as much as a nice camera or a new patio.
On the other hand, a divorce can cost you a whole lot more than that.
My niece just got married in her backyard, and my sister spent a week hanging these neat lights, with a mix mash of aged wooden chairs and tables that were obviously old and worn for a unique country setting for the wedding. The bride rode in on her horse, which was a nice touch. It probably costs about $10K with my sister doing most of the work.
$10K isn't really that much, about as much as a nice camera or a new patio.
On the other hand, a divorce can cost you a whole lot more than that.
Correct, and thank you for poonting that out. I apologize for poorly articulating that the sacrament costs nothing. The point I was trying to convey was exactly that though.... the sacrament is free and the $33k for the wedding is just fluff. I just worded it the opposite of what I was trying to say.
Now, it's up to the couples to determine if all the bells and whistles are worth the extra expense. But it's not necessary.
Well, they always have the option to do what they want, and it saves me a tad bit of money if they do.Seems a tad controlling.
But, I'd much rather them be successful in a career, or at least 100% self-sufficient, before they go playing adult games of chance... like I did.
Edit: And, they al know that I am not wanting any grandkids.
Fair enough!
Well if I ever make it to your neck of the woods, I would love to meet up and hear (over a smoke, of course) the story of why you don't want grand kids.
Exercising control over the kids is a large part of parenting. I wish more parents would "control" their children, provide direction and a moral foundation.
An easy one, I raised two of my girls all by myself. My wife raised two boys, and we have two fosters that came to us as teens. We have just had enough with babies. I loved mine, but I cannot stand looking at other people's babies. I've just never been a baby kind of person. Then when they start talking, it gets worse, ha ha.
I had just rather my kids find fulfillment in a career or some other endeavor. And, so far, they seem to agree.
I disagree with your terminology. Exercising control over children as they provide guidance and a moral foundation is a key aspect of parenting
Even in our current cultural nanny state, they aren't children at 30, sir. The foundation needs to be set loooong before.
He explained his reasons and that makes sense for his family.
I would think bribing ones offspring not to breed or marry until 30 likely puts him in the minority, which is fine but notable.
He has done 4 years in the Navy, gotten two degrees, done two tours with Americore, and one year in Africa with the Peace Corp. He is a CEO with major US firm, and the money was just a motivation. I haven't had to drop a dime on him since graduation.
I have another in Texas, working for an oil company.
My oldest daughter is the failure. She decided to open a fucking restaurant, even though I have always told her that, that was a stupid idea, and she is figuring that one out.
My youngest own a business selling high end purses, ha ha.
So, sure, I'm fucking up America with my stupid values.
You made your case. I conceded it was fine. Fits your family great. Good for you. You are now replying to my rebuttal of Warren, in which I again state I saw your point and am cool. But don't for a minute think that parents all across the South are doing what you did. This makes you totally fucking amazing, no really, super, just uncommon. But keep protesting. You are winning a competition in your mind.
@wyfbane You're right. Most parents buy their kids a car and send them out with a cell phone, go to school with their lawyers when their kids get in trouble, and then buy their kid's way into colleges, and wonder why they come back to live in their basements and smoke pot... or worse... pregnant in a trailer park.
My kids got in trouble at school, I supported the hell out of the school and punished them worse at home.
But, I am also used to having management closing out my tab on long threads like this. Ha ha. I can't believe that it has remained open, ha ha. Is no one out there keeping an eye on me? Ha ha.
My kids got in trouble at school, I supported the hell out of the school and punished them worse at home.
But, I am also used to having management closing out my tab on long threads like this. Ha ha. I can't believe that it has remained open, ha ha. Is no one out there keeping an eye on me? Ha ha.
To the first: my kid bought his car. I always sided with the school the 2 times he ever got in trouble. I have no issue with maintaining discipline with children.
I just think 30 seems an odd age to be aiming for that sort of influence? It's a difference of opinion, Bud. Your spiraling umbrage is your deal, not mine.
But as a point on your previous point. What is your goal for America? Your 6 kidless kids down here are going to have to be very successful to subsidize the 24+ kids born into poverty to the 6 kids in the trailer park down the road, because statistically thenvast majority wont escape that poverty and many will have kids at 16-18 on their own. Which means your kids are going to get lapped so to speak in the next 5 years, generationally. Sustainable? I dunno.
My goals for America? Ha ha! I’m not running for office, nor am I political in any way.
1. That is a politically loaded statement.
2. Since the seal is broken, I can say that every adult is political. Not taking action is taking action.
3. Questions since you brought it up: do you just wail away on here and wait for the mods to close you out? Sounds like what you said. Am I wrong?
4. Since the magic word was spoken, IBTL.
1. It was a joke
2. Is not a question. But, I don’t like either side of the political shit heap, nor do I believe either side. I’ve got maybe 20 more years on this planet, and my investment in it is drawing to a close. I live my life in God’s eyes, just giving unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. It matters not to me what is happening outside of my responsibility and control. Love each other, and trust.
3. It was another joke
4. Whatever, ha ha
Let go of some fears, and live a little. Laugh a lot. Have fun!
Best wishes to you.
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