Well, damn it.
Reminds me of the stories of how JFK made sure his humidor was fully stocked before signing that ban on Cuban cigars (and other Cuban products, of course), which exists to this day.
Phased Tobacco Ban Bill Proposed in California
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Reminds me of the stories of how JFK made sure his humidor was fully stocked before signing that ban on Cuban cigars (and other Cuban products, of course), which exists to this day.
Arnold was a Kennedy by marriage and political affiliation.
I'm still upset that in Massachusetts it's up to a year in jail for eating peanuts in church, thank god I'm a jew, and that I don't live there anymore. Well off to pickup some cracker jack and hit Synagogue!
I’m guessing it’s because the early Massachusettsans (?) couldn’t keep their shells off the floor.
You’d think the Planter’s folks would be rising up in protest to get this changed.
I think the main points are, there are always stupid laws and there are going to be people that think it's the government's job to run our lives and raise our kids, the fact that all of this tobacco regulation popping up is hilarious because weed is available in all of those places .. so the "it's for your health" messages are bullshit, and I'm all for legal weed ... it's a cash cow for taxes and well its cool dude .. also are they REALLY going to give up all that tobacco tax money and if they did where would they get it... hint out of your pockets... so it's less likely it's going to happen and even if it did start to move forward the lawsuits would bog it right down.
Yes it did, but the state had announced that the prohibition against flavored pipe tobacco was rescinded prior to the vote.
I love the apples VS oranges comparison of weed to tobacco. The ban on boo was a very expensive waste of resources. Prohibit something and people will seek it out. So after decades of doing nothing but make cartels richer than Musk, state legislatures figured that out. But here's the thing the everyone who rags on about this fails to figure out.
There's decades of very public research into the deleterious effects of tobacco on health and on economic productivity due to its effects on health and the campaign of "death by a thousand cuts" has been quite effective in marginalizing smoking. It's no loner "cool" and hasn't been for a long time.
The deleterious effects of smoking pot haven't been widely publicized and as time goes on you can expect the same campaign of "death by a thousand cuts" to marginalize it as well. Much more effective than prohibition, and legislators have finally figured that out. Just wait.
This is true. I've thought about why that's the case, and my best guess is that those who have been assigned the task of doing it are just too stoned. Or they're still stuck at the Inn-N-Out burger drive-thru line. And now that I think of it, that means both.
To the OP, I offer just a few words of wisdom from the late George Carlin: "Where ideas are concerned, America can be counted on to do one of two things: take a good idea and run it completely into the ground, or take a bad idea and run it completely into the ground."
Tobacco will never be cheaper or more readily available than it is right at this moment. Mods, perhaps you could pin this statement somehow?
Once upon a time the federal government and most of the states declared war on oleomargarine.
There were lots of reasons given, but the prime reason was that oleomargarine was cheaper than real butter, and the federal government and the states wanted to protect dairy farmers from competition.
Even today Wisconsin has some few restrictions against oleomargarine and imported butter, but not nearly as draconian as years ago.
Every law student is still taught this 1904 case, upholding a federal tax on oleomargarine, not repealed until 1950.
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Part of the founding of America was a revolt based in part over a small tax on tea, later repealed by the mother country.
For nearly 250 years we’ve been able to levy our own taxes on luxuries or necessities, or even outlaw them.
A tax or a ban on what I don’t do is by God the right American thing to do, but it’s fascism or communism to do it to what I like, is the prevailing attitude.
The answer is teaching children tolerance, but how best to do it, you know?
There were lots of reasons given, but the prime reason was that oleomargarine was cheaper than real butter, and the federal government and the states wanted to protect dairy farmers from competition.
Even today Wisconsin has some few restrictions against oleomargarine and imported butter, but not nearly as draconian as years ago.
Every law student is still taught this 1904 case, upholding a federal tax on oleomargarine, not repealed until 1950.
McCray v. United States - Wikipedia
Part of the founding of America was a revolt based in part over a small tax on tea, later repealed by the mother country.
For nearly 250 years we’ve been able to levy our own taxes on luxuries or necessities, or even outlaw them.
A tax or a ban on what I don’t do is by God the right American thing to do, but it’s fascism or communism to do it to what I like, is the prevailing attitude.
The answer is teaching children tolerance, but how best to do it, you know?
The name of the bill made me read it in Arnie's voice, ala "Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 Watt Range"
I'm sure we'll have a vaccine for that in the near future. First a vaccine, then the implant.
The legal marijuana market is struggling in California. Apparently the idea of allowing cafes is on the table.
Just today in San Diego the latest smoking law took effect. Apparently you can’t smoke anywhere outside on public land. You can’t smoke in a parked car, it must be moving. It was noted that the police are mandated to enforce the law.
The funny thing is the forms of smoking mentioned in these laws never include loose leaf pipe tobacco. It’s always cigarettes, E cigarettes and flavored vape thingies.
The funny thing is the forms of smoking mentioned in these laws never include loose leaf pipe tobacco. It’s always cigarettes, E cigarettes and flavored vape thingies.
and it i highly unlikely that Police officers in mighty city of S Diego would enforce such idiotism.
Hypocritical thugs, may I ask,and how allowing indoor smoking of the weed would be safer option?
It’s California. IMHO this will pass. The only state where u can smoke weed and not tobacco. Insane.
I find it hilarious at how gung-ho they were to legalize marijuana but are going after tobacco. How about banning alcohol while you're at it: car crashes, cancers, domestic abuse, violence, seems like alcohol should be on their chopping block too. Truth is, if people want it, theyll get it one way or another.
California doesn't have a monopoly on stupid rules and regulations, they (stupid rules) can be found at any level of government or other organizations (schools, churches, golf clubs, etc.) I suppose California is leading the pack in this area however. I guess the bright spot might be for those of us who don't reside in California as the availability of tobacco might improve.
Part of the impetus for the legalization of marijuana is the realization that there's money to be made by taxing it and money saved on the enforcement and punishment side as well. I've yet to find a politician who wasn't devoted to extracting more money from me to finance their ideas and schemes.
Part of the impetus for the legalization of marijuana is the realization that there's money to be made by taxing it and money saved on the enforcement and punishment side as well. I've yet to find a politician who wasn't devoted to extracting more money from me to finance their ideas and schemes.