I disagree. If the fishtail stem has the graduated bore in the stem and the well it is a System pipe. The p-lip was intended to protect the tongue and to distribute the smoke.
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What is the System? A Closer Look at the Patents
Charles Peterson's System pipe is comprised of three parts: An army mount, an internal reservoir to collect moisture from the smoke (patented 1890), and the graduated bore P-Lip mouthpiece (patented 1894 and 1898).I see the plip as a part of the system but no worries
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For my birthday! Best regards!
For my birthday! Best regards!
The patent is probably the authority. Today's consumer's belief is however, today's reality. That and Peterson offering "system" pipes with a fishtail in a bow to what the customer desires.
According to what I've read, the "System Patent" was originally issued in 1891, which covered the expanded chamber in the stummel, and the "chimney" or tube that ran downward in front of the draft hole. The P-Lip patent wasn't issued until 1898, so obviously the "System Patent" did not include the P-Lip...
I have an interest in experiencing old and original things. I use 90 year old fountain pens, some straight razors, and use old clocks and RR watches. Originality is of interest and the only way to learn is to talk. I don't see talking as arguing.
By definition, a Peterson System pipe must have a P-lip.
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That is also my opinion.. But, I keep seeing folks insisting that they (petererson) does.By definition, a Peterson System pipe must have a P-lip.
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If. System pipe lacks a P-Lip, it's a SPINO.
petersonpipenotes.org
"The P-Lip Mouthpiece
Of all the features that comprise a System pipe, the P-Lip bit is perhaps the most polarizing. Many lifetime Peterson enthusiasts swear by it; others spend hours on the forums advocating its abolishment. Mark Irwin suggests that this divisiveness among modern pipesmokers is a product of a misunderstanding of its history, function, and overall purpos
Indeed, while you will find System pipes with fishtail bits, the now iconic P-Lip mouthpiece is integral to Charles Peterson’s original System design.* The graduated bore mouthpiece and P-Lip button were two of Charles’ last System patents, final amendments to his original System design and crucial to its function."
145. Andy Wike’s Guide to the System Pipe
Back in June, Andy Wike at Smokingpipes blogged on the System pipe, reflecting on one of my favorite chapters in The Peterson Pipe: The Story of Kapp & Peterson, assimilating it and in a few in…
petersonpipenotes.org
"The P-Lip Mouthpiece
Of all the features that comprise a System pipe, the P-Lip bit is perhaps the most polarizing. Many lifetime Peterson enthusiasts swear by it; others spend hours on the forums advocating its abolishment. Mark Irwin suggests that this divisiveness among modern pipesmokers is a product of a misunderstanding of its history, function, and overall purpos
Indeed, while you will find System pipes with fishtail bits, the now iconic P-Lip mouthpiece is integral to Charles Peterson’s original System design.* The graduated bore mouthpiece and P-Lip button were two of Charles’ last System patents, final amendments to his original System design and crucial to its function."
" So what does it do? According to a 1987 Peterson ad, "the unique graduated bore of the mouthpiece made the suction 15 times weaker when it reached the tobacco chamber. So all the bitter tars and moisture float into the reservoir and could never reach the mouth."
The Peterson System Pipe | Smokingpipes.com
The Peterson System Pipe | Smokingpipes.com