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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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After Congress declared war, my family all signed up. Two of my uncles were in the Navy and fought in the South Pacific. One uncle was a tank commander attached to Patton. My father was refused service because his work as an aeronautical engineer made him essential to the war effort. He was one of the engineers on the B-17 and the B-19. My aunts did war work. That was one hell of a generation.
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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We should always remember.

I remember it (well, think of it, since I wasn't there), as the international equivalent of a cowardly sucker punch.

Those who were killed and otherwise affected by Pearl Harbor have my total sympathy.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have never happened if not because of it. The US was trying hard to stay out of what was happening in Europe at that time, and never attacked Japan if not attacked BY it.

That Hirohito and many of his generals survived the war they started---with absolute calculation and deliberation---is one of the biggest injustices of the 20th century. They should have all been publicly executed after the fact.
 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
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The Lower Forty of Hill Country
I had the privilege of knowing a United States Marine veteran (sadly now deceased) who was on board the USS Missouri during the Japanese surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay. In my humble estimation they just don't make men like him anymore.

Numquam obliviscere, commemora semper!
 
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tbradsim1

Lifer
Jan 14, 2012
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Southwest Louisiana
My Dad enlisted in the navy, was a top welder for Chicago Bridge & Iron, got discharged and sent to New Mexico, never a word what he did, his older brother fought from Africa to Germany, my Mothers younger brother got crushed by a landing ship in Korea, but survived, I went to S Asia, survived, my oldest Son and twin daughter served in Desert Storm. it saddened me that this forum had nothing to say about Dec 3, no media coverage also, people don’t give a 💩 anymore.
 
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jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
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My Dad enlisted in the navy, was a top welder for Chicago Bridge & Iron, got discharged and sent to New Mexico, never a word what he did, his older brother fought from Africa to Germany, my Mothers younger brother got crushed by a landing ship in Korea, but survived, I went to S Asia, survived, my oldest Son and twin daughter served in Desert Storm. it saddened me that this forum had nothing to say about Dec 3, no media coverage also, people don’t give a 💩 anymore.
My kids know what happened when, Brad.
I bet there’s more than you would guess if you just went by what the internet says.
 
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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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Stupid fact I wouldn't exist if this didn't happen. My mothers side of the family only came over from Italy to join up and fight on the Allies side of things. That might have been an interesting story but my understanding is the relative that came over wasn't big on talking about things or explaining motivations. We all have things though that our elders don't understand how we could forget. I couldn't believe though that I met a guy my age that thought Pearl Harbor was made up for that movie. It was a devastating attack that back fired if I understand it correctly somehow that was supposed to stop us from being able to hurt Japan.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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I had the privilege of knowing a United States Marine veteran (sadly now deceased) who was on board the USS Missouri during the Japanese surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay. In my humble estimation they just don't make men like him anymore.

Numquam obliviscere, commemora semper!
Humans are like plants we're a product of our environment and we'll end up being what we need to be to get through the situations we're born into. One of the reasons we maybe shouldn't try to make everything so easy.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Fact remains, it's 83 years ago, ancient history in modern terms, and doesn't matter, nor mean anything, to later generations. It's as far back in time to us as the Civil War was to it.

Our fathers may have fought in WW2, but it would be the current generation's grandfathers and great grandfathers and none of it resonates as it once did.

Since people forget their history they are doomed to repeat it. Just the way that it is.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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Fact remains, it's 83 years ago, ancient history in modern terms, and doesn't matter, nor mean anything, to later generations. It's as far back in time to us as the Civil War was to it.

Our fathers may have fought in WW2, but it would be the current generation's grandfathers and great grandfathers and none of it resonates as it once did.

Since people forget their history they are doomed to repeat it. Just the way that it is.
Every generation does this. Maybe it's because I live in a State with a lot of old farts, but a lot of younger people are still aware of a lot of the history of WW2. Sounds like that's not universal.