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Just this morning I was rereading an issue of Pipe Friendly (Vol. 2, #4, 1997) and there was a Dunhill press release printed therein called From Motorities To Pipes which included a bit more detailed info than the Pipedia Dunhill timeline that does however include this tidbit:
1920: Dunhill stopped buying bowls turned in France in favor of those turned in London at the newly opened Dunhill bowl-turning facility.
https://pipedia.org/wiki/Dunhill
The press release from 1997 tells us that "...in 1920 a pipe-bowl turning unit was established at 20 Pancras Road near to King's Cross." and that addy lines up with the earliest Parker addy I've seen, which was this advert from 1924:
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So, what we can infer from this is that most definitely the Parker brand was being made at the actual Dunhill factory, I'd think.
What is unclear is how long this parallel manufacturing went on and at what time it shifted.
Was Parker subbed out to the Hardcastle factory in 1936?
Or were they continued to be made in parallel with Dunhill pipes at the Forest Road Walthamstow factory which was established around the same time as the 49% holding in Hardcastle occured?
Or had they been made at Notting Hill, which was closed in 1946?
I'd guess Notting Hill more likely, but then again, Parker production could have been spread out between whatever factories were being ran by Dunhill --- I haven't actually handled many old Parkers and have only seen pix online from a fairly limited sample size of the earlier pipes, but I have noted the apparent quality variables, which appear as if some Parkers may have been processed as Dunhills until the very end when for some reason they may have been deemed "failings" and would have been given the same intensive procedural processing that the Dunhill pipes got, while other examples lack such telltale traits with very light blasts and sometimes a notable "pricking" (rustication meant to resemble blasting) of the shank instead of the trademark Dunhill technique of blasting all the way down to the very end of the mortise hole.
With the closure of Notting Hill in 1946, Dunhill production shifted to new premises at Cumberland Road aka the Plaistow factory and remained there for quite some time, until March 1982 when pipe manufacturing was transferred to St. Andrews Road, Walthamstow.
Really I don't actually know much at all and I'm speculating upon the scant resources I have, so take all of this with a grain of salt, I'm certainly no Dunhill expert but I am somewhat of an enthusiast simply because it's all so much fun and Dunhill-lore provides a rich luscious terra to tromp through.
And ol' Alfred invented the sandblasted pipe, or at least popularized it --- which is yet another deeply rich but foggy area which will probably remain unanswered for the ages, the actual real formative history of the sandblasted briar pipe seems elusive...
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1) It would be of great interest to have these high quality variables pointed out. :)
2) The fly in the ointment there is the apparent (second hand information) lack of Parkers in stereotypical Dunhill shapes (and vice versa) suggesting migration from one production line to the other based on quality perceptions.
1) :) ditto! I wish there was a database of such, but I don't have enough pipe images saved to do any sort of decent presentation, you can browse the worthpoint auction records and take note but sadly the images are too small for critical analysis
2) There does exist overlap in quite a few cases, and I actually have a pair of which I'll try to photograph together since you put in the request, they are a Parker shape 63 and a Dunhill shape 40, both lovats, and although the 63 is a Grp.3 while the 40 is a Grp. 4, the similarities speak for themselves...
...alternatively, you could take the on the time-consuming task of playing the match game, of which worthpoint would be a good resource since it's chockfull of examples, an easy start would be the Parker 95 being a Dunhill LB, although the stems on most 95's are a bit off and wonky looking, the bowl is obviously (to my eyes) the classic LB - and there are many other examples as well that match up together...
...will do a bit of digging myself, but I do greatly appreciate collective effort in such matters! :P
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Another interesting note,

here from Dock Perry circa 2007 talking about a 1933 Parker Giant Bark which sold for over $2,000...

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.smokers.pipes/EGvjAhFBNGg/discussion
...
And hey!

Dig this fab '25 Parker,

get yerself an historic piece of co-created history!

(never mind that it's actually from 1950 and has a crappy replacement stem)

LOL

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-OF-YEAR-1925-first-year-Parker-Pipe-Co-created-by-Dunhill-Estate-Pipe-/152027418322?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
It's a 63 like mine, but smooth.

The Dunhill equivalent is a shape 38.
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katarn07

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Not to stop the insightful discussion about the history of Parker pipes, but here is my first briar pipe that I picked up from the post office today. It's a Parker London. I haven't smoked it yet. It was pouring rain here in the afternoon before it started snowing. It's supposed to be sunny and mid-50s on Saturday. I'll try it out then.
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I just got around to getting Ball jars. Now to get a pipe rack...

 
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...here is my first briar pipe that I picked up from the post office today. It's a Parker London.
Sweet pipe katarn07, you're off to a great start and nabbed a classic from the getgo,

smoke thee well and jolly smoggo!

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Doc was something else, wasn't he ? ! Whenever he posted something, I snapped to attention.
I didn't know him because I'm new to the game myself, only been on the scene for around 5 years now, but I've cobbled together a small collection of TPSE and other older publications, as well as intensive searching (and much learning due to the incredible content) on the ASP archive --- I first ran across Dock's old postings on BoB when he was talking about his ephemera collection and I was jawdropt...

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/an-incredible-library-of-pipe-amp-tobacco-books
...he is a very serious dude and quite the completist,

later I read somewhere that he gave up smoking and sold his entire collection, which also included some very high grade pipes, dunno if that's true or not though.

 

loneredtree

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Sierra Foothills
Karatan,
Congratulations on the new pipe.
A suggestion: If you are aging that tobacco, you should reduce the air a bit by halving the jar size. Maybe even if you are just holding the tobacco for use.
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katarn07

Might Stick Around
Mar 1, 2016
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With the sun shining today it didn't feel as cold as originally forecast. I decided on Frog Morton for the first bowl in my Parker. To answer the OP's question, it's a nice pipe. Not sure how it compares to other briar pipes but I'm not having buyer's remorse.

 

mso489

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i bought a Parker cherrywood/poker shape (briar) about four years ago. It's a nice light weight pipe with an ample bowl. It did take too long to pipe cleaner all of the black stain or bowl coating out of the shank, but other than that, it's been a good pipe. It reminds me of the new Savinelli 311 pokers, but I like the Parker's slightly longer stem and slightly jauntier angles to the bowl bottom and shank. It doesn't have a band, but often, I find that a plus, more straightforward.

 
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