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jerseysam

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Nice pick up Jay. For a long time, if looking at the intersection of price, condition, availability, quality (non-corrosive) bulk ammo, and just fun shooting.....the Swede 96' Mausers (6.5) and the Swiss 7.5 straight-pulls were at the top of my millsurp list. You could get very pristine examples for $270-$350. No more of course, but still more affordable than the more 'historic collector' minded-stuff. Have fun sir....solid rifle and just plain fun to run.
 

rajangan

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That rifle is beautiful. I hope some day, I'll be in a position to collect art like that.

If it's not too off topic, but as you were talking about it before, could someone tell me about corrosive ammo. I was looking at this cheap Tokarev 7.62x25, and one local ammo source said "steel-corrosive", and I don't know what that really means.
 

spicy_boiii

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Aug 5, 2020
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Love the old swiss guns. It was obvious they were on to something, with the way the whole contemporary popularity of alot of the 6.5-esque calibers has played out.

Edit: It's 6.5 Swedish. I guess it shows how much I've been out of the gun world recently.
 
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jaytex1969

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tell me about corrosive ammo.

The chemical composition of the primers contain some salts that are hygroscopic, ie they attract/absorb moisture.

This leads to accelerated rusting in the bore and on the bolt face of a bolt action rifle. Also, the gas system in a semiautomatic.

It's easy enough to handle. Clean as soon as possible. Dump water down the bore and over the bolt, dry, then clean and lubricate as normal. Semi's are more involved to clean and I personally avoid corrosive ammo in semiauto weapons.

Delay cleaning corrosive salts at your own risk.

Those Chinese Tok's are nice. As long as you clean when finished, you'll have no problem.



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rajangan

Part of the Furniture Now
Feb 14, 2018
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The chemical composition of the primers contain some salts that are hygroscopic, ie they attract/absorb moisture.

This leads to accelerated rusting in the bore and on the bolt face of a bolt action rifle. Also, the gas system in a semiautomatic.

It's easy enough to handle. Clean as soon as possible. Dump water down the bore and over the bolt, dry, then clean and lubricate as normal. Semi's are more involved to clean and I personally avoid corrosive ammo in semiauto weapons.

Delay cleaning corrosive salts at your own risk.

Those Chinese Tok's are nice. As long as you clean when finished, you'll have no problem.



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Thank you! Very helpful.
 

FurCoat

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Yeah. Most people fire the GP11 when they can find it and then buy the PPU for the decent boxer brass.



Thank you, Salted. I'm glad I could share a more interesting facet with you.

In addition to my admiration of the "old world" craftsmanship of the bolt action era, I am also a combat veteran.

I have been to places where the populace is disarmed. The bumper sticker comes to mind.

"Politicians love unarmed peasants."



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Armed = citizen
Unarmed = subject
 

luigi

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"I have one barrel, my wife has a double barrell ..." ????
Tried to make a joke and realized the word "pipe" fits better than "barrel". Never mind.

Nice flint. I'm not very familiar with guns and own only one rifle with the famous Mauser bolt action for hunting. It works perfectly and gets its job done.
I guess guns collectors occasionally struggle with different acquisition disorders too.
 

jaytex1969

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The German and Swede Mausers are so in demand that they are usually more than I care to spend, like all the American stuff.

I managed to snag Yugo and Turk Mausers in 8mm, though. Still nothing in 6.5. I don't feel compelled to own 6.5 but have been eyeballing 7mm quite often.

My best Mauser is an FN made for Colombian military in 30-06 and re-calibered in 7.62 NATO while in service to Israel.



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The German and Swede Mausers are so in demand that they are usually more than I care to spend, like all the American stuff.

I managed to snag Yugo and Turk Mausers in 8mm, though. Still nothing in 6.5. I don't feel compelled to own 6.5 but have been eyeballing 7mm quite often.

My best Mauser is an FN made for Colombian military in 30-06 and re-calibered in 7.62 NATO while in service to Israel.



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Wow, Up here those Swedish Mausers and in a degree The German made ones are not that rare, and I have a reason to believe that they go for approximately half the price asked in the U.S
 
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mso489

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With Switzerland being neutral in WWI, was this intended as a military rifle or a hunting piece? The length makes it somewhat ungainly, but its accuracy is a virtue.
 
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jaytex1969

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With Switzerland being neutral in WWI, was this intended as a military rifle or a hunting piece? The length makes it somewhat ungainly, but its accuracy is a virtue.

It was their military rifle of the era. That length was the "protocol" of the time. Soon after, carbines began to emerge, though.

The Swiss came up with an ingenious way to maintain their neutrality.

The entire populace are/were trained marksmen, filling every peak and valley of the mountainous terrain.

Every would be invader, from Hitler on down, took a look up those mountains and said, "Not worth it."




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crawdad

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Jaytex, you need to see the light and grab a Lee-Enfield. Rugged, holds 10 rounds and has a super smooth action. My brother gave me a #4 MkII and it must have a match grade barrel because it is wicked accurate. Only drawback is ammo, .303 rounds aren’t cheap.
 

jaytex1969

Lifer
Jun 6, 2017
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Jaytex, you need to see the light and grab a Lee-Enfield. Rugged, holds 10 rounds and has a super smooth action. My brother gave me a #4 MkII and it must have a match grade barrel because it is wicked accurate. Only drawback is ammo, .303 rounds aren’t cheap.

Just so happens I have an Ishapore 2A1, which is all of the above in 7.62 NATO.


AIM Surplus had a "Dent & Scratch" sale ten years ago and I got it for about $80. Only thing wrong with it was a broken extractor spring, a $9 part.

I can't be the ship's gunner without an adequate supply of munitions... nnnn ?‍☠️




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SoddenJack

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When the gun crew on the forum get going it seems more about the doodads than the substance of their daily carry, which in in my mind is an obscenity given that there's no need for a lethal weapon given the safety of the daily environment. Seems more an
excuse to strut about like a turkey than anything else.
Do you want the King of England coming in here, pushing you around? Huh? Well? DO YOU?
 
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SoddenJack

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They seem cool but never wanted to venture into more goofy calibers. I’ve got quite a few already.
Speaking of goofy calibers...
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Back in 2003 I purchased a Winchester 70 in 243 WSSM. The guy at Dicks saw me coming a mile away. He convinced me this would be the new standard for the future. Now I have a rifle I put maybe 40 rounds through and a full case of ammo that I think is worth more than the rifle.
 
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