[OT] Avant Garde Music Anyone?

[jarit]

This might sound awfully elitist and all that but I don't actually five a fuck. Why should I have to make excuses that I like odd music?
I have no classical nor musical training. I was just dragged into a Stockhousen "concert" thirty years ago. My interest was sparked. Is this thing utter pretentious shite, or do I like it?
Now, I like Zappa and love him etc. but I'm talking about more classical extraordidinadess as Steve Reich (who is going to be here in Helsinki this summer I hear!) and Philip Glass, Arvo Pärt, etc.
I'd like to introduce Kimmo Pohjonen, the Finnish accordionist. Here he is with Kronos Quarte and Samuli Kosminen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o86Uh_5MoEw&list=PLCD855A22BE1A7696&index=6
If that Here's more current wrestling accordion pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpkuhHqUN4
Another from Helsinki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe0LOp2COis
Some may not understand what is the connection with accordion music and wrestling. There is one, and it's not necessarily sexual. It purely auditive. Believe me.
I'd like to know if you people here listen weird shit?

 

[jarit]

If you have one hour plus time lie down time then listen to Canto Ostinato by Simeon ten Holt. Jeroen and Sandra Van Veen. It's marvelous pipe smoking or just being a human music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpxW6_joifI

 

[andrew]

Actually that sounds like music, I like the first and last pieces. Here is something I just can't fathom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYS1PG6RoyY

 

[philobeddoe]

Smoke what you want and listen to whatever you want, it's no skin off my back. The first one, with the Kronos Quartet, was actually quite nice.

 

[tuold]

jarit, I found your examples to be quite listenable. I'm not sure I would classify the music alone as avant garde. Maybe the presentation is. It sounds to me for the most part to be tonally centered and somewhat cinematic in nature, not exactly concert music but something I'd hear in a move soundtrack.
Andy, whatever that is....it's just bad! =) It reminds me of a concert Yoko Ono put on here in Portland a number of years ago. Eccch!

 

[philobeddoe]

Andy, your vid reminded me of the performance art piece that the Dude's landlord puts on in the Big Lebowski. Dammit, now I'm craving IN'n'OUT burgers!

 

[huntertrw]

"Avant Garde Music Anyone?"
The first composer which came to mind after I read the title of this thread was John Cage. I would have posted a link to a composition of his, but YouTube seems to be off-line this morning.

 

[yaddy306]

I listened to U2 the other day. Is that considered avant-garde?

 

[huntertrw]

"I listened to U2 the other day. Is that considered avant-garde?"
Bon-no!

 

[yaddy306]

Bon-no!

LOL

 

[leacha]

Andy's post reminded me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz9M-9W7B5A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I like Exotica music.

 

[sablebrush52]

I was at the Ojai Music Festival this weekend, which is devoted to avant garde and contemporary music. Heard two Bartok quartets as well as a Boulez Sonantine for flute and piano. Loved the Bartok. Hated the Boulez. I tend to like more conservative forms of contemporary classical music where not all aural toeholds have been expunged. Berio, Cage (occasionally, for the humor),Ligetti (occasionally), Glass, Copland, Barber, Menotti, etc.

 

[andrew]

@Tuold I digress that Yoko Ono performance was brilliant, it's the notes you don't hear are the ones to listen for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68
Here's a hilarious commentary on Yoko Ono and John Lennon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5zO6t_RZdc

 

[tuold]

Accch! She's the Queen of Cringe. Why would people pay money to subject themselves to that? :roll:
My favorite avant garde composer is Claudio Monteverdi. He practically invented a new form of musical expressiveness, although he claimed he was just putting into writing what musicians were already playing. I think that's pretty much how music develops.

 

[darthcider]

Harry Parch, Throbbing Gristle, Genesis P. Orridge and Lustmord are all worth a listen.

Or you may think it's utter tripe and do your own thing.

There's enough music out there for all of us.

 

[agnosticpipe]

I've had an attraction to "avant garde" music from an early age when in the early 1950s my parents took me to see Walt Disney's Fantasia. Now many may feel that this film didn't have any progressive music in it, but to me having only been exposed to the likes of Mozart, Beethoven, and Tchaikovsky, the sounds of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, and Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain were so sonically different for me I had to hear more. So over the years I have sought out different and unusual music. I listened to the likes of Laurie Anderson, Arvo Part, Steven Reich, Philip Glass, and Frank Zappa's music, plus many more. Some of it went over my head, but most found a place in my music listening library. I recently listened to a CD by Wildbirds and Peacedrums, a Swedish duo that has recorded in Iceland among other places. I first heard their music from the TV show "Fortitude", a rather bleak but highly entertaining show about a little fictitious town above the arctic circle. I have to admit, that there is so much out there to listen to, and some is stuff I like and some I can take it or leave it. All in all, it's rather fun though, and will always be a part of my life.

 

[maxx]

Cecil Taylor - The World of Cecil Taylor (1960)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WD7JTpXZ1To
John Coltrane - Mars (1967) / from Interstellar Space
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KXfLov-ncZ8

 

[maxx]

Peter Brotzmann - Machine Gun (1968)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wgA9L5TN5M

 

[northernneil]

A friend and I went to a Medeski, Martin & Wood (Jazz) Concert about 4 years ago, during their Radiolarian's Tour. This show was completely comprised of improvised, dissonant, avant garde music. I personally never though three musicians could generate such a big sound, creating music that is the farthest thing from standard rhythm and melody as we know it. My favorite part of the whole concert was, it did not matter how far apart they (John Medeski, Billy Martin and Chris Wood)got from one and other musically, there was always one point where everything just clicked, and miraculously everything made sense. They gave you just enough "comprehensive music" to prove the were doing it all on purpose. Other wise it could be mistaken for children banging on pots. :rofl:
In fact, at the end of the show they gave a very heartfelt thank-you to the few people who actually stayed. Unfortunately, about half of the audience left. I am pretty sure they came expecting to hear the classic MMW Funky Jazz, but instead got met with a face full of dissonance. Needless to say, my buddy and I were absolutely floored by the performance as we love avant garde!

 

[owen]

Bitches brew and In a silent way count?