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elpfeife

Lifer
Dec 25, 2013
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I have been interested in obtaining a Prince for some time, but haven't pulled the trigger because of the small bowl.
I would like to hear the opinions of those that have a Prince on its smoking qualities pro and con. I understand it is a shorter smoke, but just how short? Is it most suitable to a particular tobacco or cut? I mostly smoke Virginias and prefer ready rubbed.
 
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lraisch

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 4, 2011
733
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Granite Falls, Washington state
IMHO the "Prince" is the most elegant pipe shape.

Bowls do tend to be a bit small and for me a smoke in one is probably good for about 45 minutes as opposed to an hour or more in some other shapes.

I don't understand the idea of a straight "Prince" as the slight curve of the stem is what makes the shape work for me both in appearance and comfort.
 

Oddball

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 29, 2022
271
1,371
TN
I can only really speak to Briarworks Prince Pipes. I have a Savinelli but it's a Churchwarden so I don't feel like that qualifies.

The Prince is one of my favorite pipes for sure.

The shape allows the index finger to fit snug around it and the stem length is enough that makes it a great driving or easy chair pipe.

THe bowl is wider and i think lends itself to a more flavorful smoke, especially with stronger flavored blends, like english or balkans. They hold the same amount as other non-xl shapes and the stem is basically straight enough to be a straight, with a straight shank.

I have 3, and they are regulars in my rotation.
 

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
618
4,539
Ludlow, UK
I have been interested in obtaining a Prince for some time, but haven't pulled the trigger because of the small bowl.
I would like to hear the opinions of those that have a Prince on its smoking qualities pro and con. I understand it is a shorter smoke, but just how short? Is it most suitable to a particular tobacco or cut? I mostly smoke Virginias and prefer ready rubbed.
@elpfeife - I have a Meer prince, purchased initially not because of its smoking qualities but because it went well with my re-enactment role as a Victorian farm bailiff. It slips easily into a coat pocket and its small bowl is enough to provide satisfaction on the job whilst there being no danger of my floating off into a one-hour pipedream, which a bigger bowl can well do. I can smoke the prince during the whole day in role, in momentary intervals in between visitors coming up to me and asking questions which I'm there to answer. I find it takes McConnell's Scottish Cake, Peterson's Irish Cask and De Luxe Navy Rolls all very well (but I'm almost exclusively a VA/Per fan). There's no way I can make one last more than 30 minutes without interruption. Insofaras any pipe-smoker can be a Type A smoker, I'd say a prince is primarily for one of those: someone who also smokes cigarettes and cigars - usually in preference to a pipe - like Albert Edward, Prince of Wales and later King Edward VII, for whom the prince was allegedly designed.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,148
I have been interested in obtaining a Prince for some time, but haven't pulled the trigger because of the small bowl.
I would like to hear the opinions of those that have a Prince on its smoking qualities pro and con. I understand it is a shorter smoke, but just how short? Is it most suitable to a particular tobacco or cut? I mostly smoke Virginias and prefer ready rubbed.
All of that is terribly subjective. The only way to know for sure is to get one.
 

BingBong

Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
1,474
6,343
London UK
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Definitely my favorite shape and traditionally small-bowled, although I have a Savinelli which is a kind of scaled-up Prince (315).

What works for me in the Peterson, 18mm x 22mm chamber, is unrubbed flake; half a flake of OGS or anything of that size, folded lengthways then in half, then in half again to make a cube, jammed and squished in, gives a decently long and reliable smoke for the amount. I would not be without it; been eyeing up a Dunhill version with 16.5mm x 25mm chamber as a second "proper" Prince.
 

antonine

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 18, 2024
110
653
San Diego, CA
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Definitely my favorite shape and traditionally small-bowled, although I have a Savinelli which is a kind of scaled-up Prince (315).

What works for me in the Peterson, 18mm x 22mm chamber, is unrubbed flake; half a flake of OGS or anything of that size, folded lengthways then in half, then in half again to make a cube, jammed and squished in, gives a decently long and reliable smoke for the amount. I would not be without it; been eyeing up a Dunhill version with 16.5mm x 25mm chamber as a second "proper" Prince.

What's the shape number on that Peterson? It looks a heck of a lot smaller than any of the Peterson Prince shapes that I'm familiar with, so I'm assuming it's a new one I haven't heard of yet!
 
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Groot5225

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 3, 2023
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I have been interested in obtaining a Prince for some time, but haven't pulled the trigger because of the small bowl.
I would like to hear the opinions of those that have a Prince on its smoking qualities pro and con. I understand it is a shorter smoke, but just how short? Is it most suitable to a particular tobacco or cut? I mostly smoke Virginias and prefer ready rubbed.
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sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
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Lower Alabama
Prince is the second best shape after slightly bent apple. Elegant, classy, swallows rather than spits.

I have a Ropp Etudiant Smooth J16 on the way, which is a prince shape. Tracking shows Thursday, but it's very nearly here... last hub before my post office is 2 hours away and had arrived there earlier according to tracking but hasn't shown it left from there, so I might get lucky and get it today instead of tomorrow. My orders from SP almost always show up a day earlier than initially estimated on tracking.

I also have a Savinelli 315KS.

They smoke just fine, shape doesn't really affect the flavor... there's no shape/tobacco pairing effect beyond maybe a wider diameter chamber making a complex blend taste a little more consistent than in a relatively narrow chamber.
 
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