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thehappypiper

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It's great to get the perspective of experienced pipists on this issue. I wonder if there is a corelation between the tobaccos smoked and the draw preference? I must admit I am newish to Lat blends, having only been smokng them for a couple of years. For me there is always a sense of 'comng home' when I smoke a good kentucky blend, so that shows how biased my palate is. In June I made a mixture of 50/50 H.H. Old Dark Fired and Mr Pease' Union Square. A few days ago I had a smoke of it and the flavours have married nicely,the US has matured enough to take the edge of it and it was such a clean yet tasty smoke I had to stop myself from making silly noises as I was in company. :)

The pipe used was my Don Florian Dublin, which does have a fairly open draw, not as open as a Castello of course. But I think the reason this draw works with this pipe is the fact that the bowl is thin and deep, therefore it holds and concentrates the condensate/oils/heat quite well. I feel that in between puffs there is some sort of alchemy going on which doesn't quite happen in more open bowls.

As ever, there is a myriad of factors which determine the smoking experience.

It is very nice to be able to share these thoughts for a change.

 

pitchfork

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OT

I have always been fascinated by the diverse dialects in China and how some are so vastly different, yet people from various provinces can understand each other so well.
Fascinating -- sounds like Ireland in that way.
Also, "Chinglish." :rofl:

 

lawmax3

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Open draw for me.

I cant stand a restricted draw because it seems to make me puff much harder than I normally would. This in turn generally gives me a terrible smoke due to overheating.

 
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Talking about drawing, I just heard that there is a cafe in Brooklyn which has a nude model posing in the evening(quick poses) so you can draw her.

 

mrenglish

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Open draw here as well. Been getting into Jerry Crawford lately and his are some of the easiest to draw. Half my collection is Peterson though and they all have an open draw. Not as much as Crawford or Rad, but open enough that I keep collecting them.

 

pipesdownunder

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Nov 3, 2013
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I've always thought I preferred a tighter draw, but seem to get more constantly 'good smokes' from more open draws - go figure.

 

halfy

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Mar 6, 2014
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Open draw for me, though not dogmatically :)
As for the sound test, I believe the high frequency pitch would be due to the sharp edges, sharp turns or obstacles in the airway, where the airflow hit something violently, the higher possibilities that turbulence would occur and the steam would more likely to condense as water. This would cause wet smoking, poor draw, tongue bite and other down sides. The width of the air hole is not the decisive factor. However, for the same amount of draw, a tighter air hole would certainly speed up the airflow which for sure tends to faciliate turbulence. Thus open up the draw would solve the problem somehow. I guess it is an usual case that no one could always keep an good rhythm during a bowl. One would more or less make heavy or frequent draws, pack or tamp the tobacco a bit tight. Open airway makes the pipe more "tolerant" in those situations. And so comes the open draw theory. Actually the smooth build of the transition of the air way is the most important thing. Mr. Newcombe also mentioned this in his book. It was a conversation with Jess if my memory is correct.
I have modified most of my pipes. I believe there is a best air hole width if all other factors would matter are determined, for instance the shape and the chamber of the pipe, the smoker, the tobacco and so on. And there is also an optimized range of the width of the air hole, which would fit most regular smokers, regular blends ... If I can make sure the size of the air hole not in this range I would certainly change it (it is a good thing that they are MY pipes so the range would be narrowed down to my personal puff rhythm and my favourite blends). I have opened most of my pipes and the results were satisfying with no exception. I got a small group 2 dunhill tanshell billiard from the 50s with a air hole width of 3.6mm. It smoked tight and wet with lots of tongue bites. I opened it to 4mm but nothing changed significantly. I moved to the next step, 4.2mm and all a sudden it smoked like a different pipe! I got another dunhill half bent apple (shape No. 4113) smoked not as good as I expected. The problem was the air hole in shank did not fully face the air hole in tenon, I had to turn the PC to get it from the bit into the chamber. I worked with a cuspidal file on both the upper side of the air hole in tenon and the lower side of that in shank so the two openings met each other better and a PC might go through with no resistance. The pipe became one of my everyday pipes, although the air hole openings became oval. I have a group 5 billiard with an air hole of only 3.5mm, but it smokes so smooth and nothing requires any modification.
Some more on the climates. It was damn dry and full of air pollution in Beijing, especially during the winter. So I got a Venta air cleaner with moisturizing function. The average humidity of my room rose from 30% to 50 - 60%. After a few days, I got terrible smokes and tuns of tongue bites. I put my pipes on scale and found they were 0.2g - 0.5g heavier than before (as a former scientist I keep the hobby to quantify things. And I wipe out almost evrything after each smoke to maintain a very thin cake, thus the weight change of cake would be negligible.). Please note that my pipe usually gains 0.05 - 0.1g after a regular smoke. In another word they were carrying the moisture of a few smokes. I knew it was the humid air that prevented the pipes from fully recover. Then I found a drying case (usually used for photographic gears) for them and everything went back to normal.
After all, I am still a newbie of pipe smoking but hope this may help a little bit.

 
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flakyjakey

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This is an interesting question, one which I have pondered while I've been off-forum this last three months. In my view the 'width' of the draw is less important than how smooth it is. Nobody likes to suck in a mouthful of tobacco shreds or ashes, but neither do you want to work hard even to achieve a 'sipping' cadence. Like ssjones I prefer to feel some resistance when I take a robust draw on a properly-packed bowl.
I have been a committed pipe smoker for nearly fifteen years, six bowls a day on average and nine at the weekend. I have smoked hundreds of pipes and over the years have refined my collection to about sixty pipes, based entirely on their smoking qualities - I will not suffer (joke) a pipe lest it draws as smooth as silk.
The above-mentioned gentleman will not be surprised to learn that old British and Irish pipes comprise the overwhelming majority - pre-transition Barlings, Comoys and Charatans; old Dunhills; pre-Republic Petersons and, more recently, high-grade Upshalls (those carved by Barry Jones have a beautiful draw on them).

 

halfy

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Mar 6, 2014
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One more thing, smoothness is not always positive. Too smooth may destroy the taste nuances of smoke, especially for virginias. I have no idea whether it's owning to the "dilute effect" of large airway volume mentioned above in the post or something related to the airflow pattern, or even something affects the happenings in the chamber. Otherwise, why most of the pipe carvers would not go beyond 4mm? A tighter air hole can always be opened, but no turning back. One have to test and find the best solution for himself.

 

ssjones

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halfy is right, "measure twice, cut once", you can't undo opening a pipe.

That is an interesting observation about the weights after smoking. I weigh all of my pipes, but only to nearest gram.

 

apatim

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Lots of good and interesting info here for this rookie about to receive my first two briars today. Haven't had any problems with the cob so I guess I have some new experiences in store for me this weekend. Glad I saw this thread first so I don't get discouraged if my briar experience is far different from the cob.

 

swilly

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Oct 19, 2011
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TheHappyPiper, thanks for the suggestion! I recently received a meerschaum that evidently has a 3.5-4mm draw, but I feel a lot more resistance than my Castello. For now that will be my "std draw" pipe.
Best

Swilly

 

halfy

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Mar 6, 2014
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Swilly,
The only Castello I own has a 4.6mm draw. The first few bowls were so great that I thought I would have that as std draw as well. However, I changed my mind after 20 some bowls of the Castello and quite some opening tests on a few brands/carvers.The castello is still a good smoker in terms of smoothness. But some tighter pipes are more capable to explode the most beautiful nuances of the virginia flavor. I now prefer something between 3.7-4.2mm. And my best smoker is a dunhill 4103 billiard, 3.6mm draw.
It is not just the draw, it is all about the transition. Though as long as problem occurs, open up would probably be positive for the transition.

 
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thehappypiper

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So I suppose I should add fine-scale digital calipers to the list "Things I really should get round to buying."

Why is it that as one gets older, one is more interested in tools? I think it must be because we get so tired of others doing a bad job of things.

 
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