I just tried the gravity pack method and got a good 15-20 min. out of one light. Way better than what I have been getting with the three layer pack method. Thanks for the tip. Before I think I wasn't putting in enough tobacco and also ended up tamping it down too much restricting draw.My packing so far no problem, I've been using the gravity pack, usually is one light, finish the whole bowl. One bowl usually last me about 45 mins to 1 hour