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deathmetal

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I have been enjoying Five Brothers, and it occurs to me again how many non-Nicotine effects there are. For example, Perique seems to raise the heart rate, and strong Burleys like this Five Brothers cause a response in the digestive tract that is not solely attributable to Nicotine.
One side effect of the War On Tobacco (WOT?) is that people are afraid to discuss anything that may be styled as negative, but personally, I find the variations between types of leaf to be quite fascinating.

 

weezell

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Oct 12, 2011
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Five Brothers cause a response in the digestive tract that is not solely attributable to Nicotine.
Five Brothers and a cup of strong coffee first thing in the morning =.... :wink:

 

cosmicfolklore

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As far as digestive tract... I was trying some McConnell's Pure Caribe once and quickly dropped the pipe and ran to the lieu. I've also been smoking a cigar, can't recall the name, but I'd remember the smell... same thing. Maybe caribe and me don't get along.
War Horse green also sends my heart rate up a notch... or three. I've read that perique has different effect on different folks. Not that War Horse has perique, but Mark Ryan mentioned something about this in a speech he made on a factory tour. The perique process reduces the nicotine in the leaf, but makes what nicotine that is there get absorbed more easily. I don't know the science, but I imagine that it is similar to how a cigarette floods the system with nicotine, making it a stimulant. Maybe War Horse has a chemical combo that is similar.
Anyways, just thinking...

 

jvnshr

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The perique process reduces the nicotine in the leaf, but makes what nicotine that is there get absorbed more easily. I don't know the science, but I imagine that it is similar to how a cigarette floods the system with nicotine, making it a stimulant.
Interesting, is there any sugar in Perique?

 

mayfair70

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Sep 14, 2015
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Some blends raise my heart-rate by up to twenty beats per minute. I know this because I smoke a bowl before I go into the Doctor's office every month. :P
I also noticed anything with more than a fair hint of Perique will remove the blood from my nicotine stream. Between the taste and the Nic hit, it is a win-win. So yeah, I noticed that too. :puffy:

 

deathmetal

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Jul 21, 2015
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Stream of blood and Nicotine... I love this forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb4I54mB9S8

 

ophiuchus

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Mar 25, 2016
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I'm no chemist (not for years, anyway), but I understand that there's the nicotine content, and there's the free-nicotine content, that can affect one's experience with tobacco. This application was discovered accidentally by the American cigarette industry. Ammonia had been used heavily in processing cigarette tobacco, in part to neutralize the pH of the tobacco to make it easier to inhale the smoke, and as a flavor agent (which I still find fascinatingly warped ... what twisted mind arrives at ammonia as a flavoring?). I think it was Phillip Morris that discovered that the ammonia was also freeing nicotine molecules from other naturally occurring salts in the tobacco and processed tobacco sheet, creating a kind of freebase, with a larger percentage of free nicotine ready to bind with our nicotinic acetylcholine receptors immediately upon introduction (resulting in a lot of returning Marlboro customers). Other American cigarette manufacturers followed the practice ...
Anywho, back on track ... I'm thinking that different tobacco varieties go through different processes, are treated with different flavorings and neutralizing agents and are even cooked differently before they end up in our tins and pouches which can affect both the total nicotine content, as well as the free nicotine content, and this thread has me wondering if Perique may have more free nicotine due to fermentation.
Someone here has got to know more about this ... :puffpipe:

 
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