No Stanwell Pipes at Smokingpipes.com?
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I noticed that as well. I think with P&C having blowout prices on Stanwell there is no incentive to carry them at SPC.
Weird.
I guess it is the STG P&C super blowout?
Anyway,
thankfully you can still use the SP archive,
it's a tool I use frequently as well,
and a great resource.
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/denmark/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=127127
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What model were you looking for?
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I guess it is the STG P&C super blowout?
Anyway,
thankfully you can still use the SP archive,
it's a tool I use frequently as well,
and a great resource.
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/denmark/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=127127
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:What model were you looking for?
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Seeing as I have no experience with Danish Made Stanwells,I cannot speak to the drop in quality. However, I can say the 3 Italian Made Stanwells I do have smoke wonderfully. My only complaint would be that one of my Golden Danish pipes has some large putty fills. But that does not affect smoking quality.
That is true but is also irrelevant to the issue being discussed. The ultimate ownership is the same. A business can divide its assets amongst any number of different companies for a whole variety of legal and tax reasons but in economic terms they are a unified enterprise. Apple computer has its retail stores in one or more separate corporations but, guess what, they only sell Apple computers because that is the business decision the group has made. A subsidiary operates at the behest of its controlling shareholder.
I don't know why they stopped carrying Stanwell, but I suspect they see their own Savinelli pipes as playing in the same market segment and didn't want to canibalize higher margin Savinelli sales by also selling Stanwells. Just one possible explanation. Seems wholly sensible to me.
They are two separate names on paper but I'm fairly certain Laudisi and Smoking Pipes are in the same building... Regardless, no love lost with them not selling Stanwell.
I think that Peck is headed down the correct trail.
There is nothing inferior about the Italian-made Stanwell pipes for Smokingpipes to complain about. Besides which, no successful business "makes a bold statement" if it is going to cost them money. This was a business decision on the part of Smokingpipes, not an emotional response. Perhaps they were forced into this decision by STG's pricing policies, but that's what competition is all about. What will be interesting to see is their response, vis-a-vie Savinelli pricing and distribution.
Personally, I'm enjoying the new, lower Stanwell pricing at P&C.
There is nothing inferior about the Italian-made Stanwell pipes for Smokingpipes to complain about. Besides which, no successful business "makes a bold statement" if it is going to cost them money. This was a business decision on the part of Smokingpipes, not an emotional response. Perhaps they were forced into this decision by STG's pricing policies, but that's what competition is all about. What will be interesting to see is their response, vis-a-vie Savinelli pricing and distribution.
Personally, I'm enjoying the new, lower Stanwell pricing at P&C.
Guys,
Since this topic has generated some interest here, I'd like to weigh in to explain our reasoning. Once the distribution of Stanwells moved from Music City Marketing to a U.S. subsidiary of STG, we simply found that we were unable to get a sufficient quantity or product mix of Stanwell pipes to represent the brand well. It had practically become impossible for us to get Stanwells, particularly the pieces that we and our customers wanted. When the supply virtually dried up, it no longer made since for us to offer the brand. I certainly don't intend that as a criticism of STG. In general, we have a good working relationship with them and do well with their product line.
Best,
Josh
Since this topic has generated some interest here, I'd like to weigh in to explain our reasoning. Once the distribution of Stanwells moved from Music City Marketing to a U.S. subsidiary of STG, we simply found that we were unable to get a sufficient quantity or product mix of Stanwell pipes to represent the brand well. It had practically become impossible for us to get Stanwells, particularly the pieces that we and our customers wanted. When the supply virtually dried up, it no longer made since for us to offer the brand. I certainly don't intend that as a criticism of STG. In general, we have a good working relationship with them and do well with their product line.
Best,
Josh
Your question has been answered, but I'll offer a little more.
I was a huge Stanwell fan when I first started smoking pipes, the shapes, many of which were designed by Sixten Ivarsson as well as other notable famous Danish pibemager, gave them a distinct edge - many of those wonderful old shapes aren't made in modern production for some reason, I don't know why.
For me, a certain aura has been lost.
Call me a romantic dweeb, but that's how I feel.
Italian produced pipes began 01/01/10.
Stanwell are now produced in the Tuscany region of Italy at Livorno, made by Barontini.
via email direct from Stanwell, I was told this:
Asking about the move, they told me this:
When Scandinavian Tobacco Company decided to move the production to Italy, there was an auction at the Borup factory --
many pipemakers from all around picked up some good equipment...
http://www.svenskapipklubben.se/en/?p=539
Stanwell in Borup had what could be argued to have been the most advanced and effiecient pipe factory in the world, looking similar to an F1 garage with floors you could eat off of --- the Italian factory looks a bit different, here's a short video of it, for some reason it includes a grimacing putty filling scene...
http://vimeo.com/36133082
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