Niemeyer Hollandia

[BROBS]

Picked this up and was still full. Dry as a bone but still smells great.

Can’t find any real info on the blend. I wonder what the flavoring is it almost smells like Players Whiskey Flake ?

 

[BROBS]

Anybody ever smoked this??

 

[BROBS]

If not....
Should I?

I'm thinking I’d try it dry first since it still seems to have aroma. If that sucks balls I’ll try rehydration.

 

[jeff540]

Never heard of it. I do recall a Niemeyer that used to get his ass kicked during recess in elementary school.

 

[gervais]

Do it!!!

 

[logs]

Try it first before you rehydrate. At least that way you have a point of comparison.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Being from Holland, maybe it’s actually weed?

 

[danimalia]

Is it a Virginia-Kentucky halfzware? A Troost-stye cavendish? Am I out of Dutch tobacco styles to guess? As your attorney I strongly urge you to fire the sum'bitch up and report back

 

[danimalia]

BTW the tin is awesome!

 

[BROBS]

Is it a Virginia-Kentucky halfzware? A Troost-stye cavendish? Am I out of Dutch tobacco styles to guess? As your attorney I strongly urge you to fire the sum'bitch up and report back

More a troost style cavendish... maybe more like flying dutchman?

 

[danimalia]

I've never actually tried one of those but have always been curious. Well I guess I've had Amphora Original if that counts. Been meaning, but forgetting, to add a couple ounces of Stokkebye 301 Natural Dutch Cavendish or a pouch of Sail Yellow to an order.

 

[BROBS]

I smoked it! ?
Not bad at all. Sort of has an unidentifiable sweet topping that is very very similar to Players Whiskey Flake but a lighter tobacco both in color and strength. It’s a Dutch aromatic cavendish for sure. Troost aromatic would probably be the closest thing you could find today.

the flavors were muted but still there.. not too shabby... and it sure won’t leave any goop in your pipe, the shit damn near disintegrated!

 

[BROBS]

I wonder if it’s like the old Flying Dutchman?

 

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tin description

 

[cosmicfolklore]

The tin is in English, so it must have been sold in he English speaking market. I'll bet the name was hard to market, with a name like that. It just beacons to be bullied, wedgied, and shoved into a locker.

 

[jguss]

Cool looking tin. And it looks to be in amazing shape.

Royal Theodorus Niemeyer Ltd. is a very old Dutch tobacco company. For a very brief history see: Niemeyer (tobacco) - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemeyer_(tobacco). Niemeyer is currently part of Imperial Tobacco, but at the time your tin was made it was still independent.

Niemeyer applied for the Hollandia trademark in the US in 1962, and it was registered in 1963. In the application Niemeyer claimed that the mark had been in use since 1948, but it seems pretty clear that this usage was in Europe and not the United States. The first actual mention I can find of Hollandia in the States is in advertisements from March 1967 announcing a "new assortment of international pipe tobacco", of which Hollandia was one.

Here's an ad showing the various "international" tobaccos offered by Niemeyer:



So I think it's safe to say the introduction of the blend to the US market (which you can tell is where your tin was sold by looking at the Hollco distribution text) was in 1965 plus or minus a year or two. After its introduction the blend was sold here for about 20 years; the last mention I could find of it was in the 1983 edition of the RTDA almanac, and the US trademark was allowed to expire in 1987.

Based on the Hollco Warren street address your tin can't date from later than 1981/82, which is when the company moved from Manhattan to Queens. So all in all your tin was originally sold in about a 15 year window, and is somewhere around 40-50 years old.

The link, if any, between Niemeyer's Hollandia and another pipe tobacco of the same name produced by another Dutch pipe tobacco manufacturer, Louis Dobbelmann, is unclear to me. Since the US trademark is in Niemeyer's name, and since at that time Niemeyer was independent, my offhand guess, and it would be exactly that, is that there was no link. A licensing agreement is possible, of course, but in this country at least the owner of a trademark wouldn't let a licensee trademark his brand in another country. But anything is possible.

 

[BROBS]

Cool looking tin. And it looks to be in amazing shape.

Royal Theodorus Niemeyer Ltd. is a very old Dutch tobacco company. For a very brief history see: Niemeyer (tobacco) - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemeyer_(tobacco). Niemeyer is currently part of Imperial Tobacco, but at the time your tin was made it was still independent.

Niemeyer applied for the Hollandia trademark in the US in 1962, and it was registered in 1963. In the application Niemeyer claimed that the mark had been in use since 1948, but it seems pretty clear that this usage was in Europe and not the United States. The first actual mention I can find of Hollandia in the States is in advertisements from March 1967 announcing a "new assortment of international pipe tobacco", of which Hollandia was one.

Here's an ad showing the various "international" tobaccos offered by Niemeyer:

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So I think it's safe to say the introduction of the blend to the US market (which you can tell is where your tin was sold by looking at the Hollco distribution text) was in 1965 plus or minus a year or two. After its introduction the blend was sold here for about 20 years; the last mention I could find of it was in the 1983 edition of the RTDA almanac, and the US trademark was allowed to expire in 1987.

Based on the Hollco Warren street address your tin can't date from later than 1981/82, which is when the company moved from Manhattan to Queens. So all in all your tin was originally sold in about a 15 year window, and is somewhere around 40-50 years old.

The link, if any, between Niemeyer's Hollandia and another pipe tobacco of the same name produced by another Dutch pipe tobacco manufacturer, Louis Dobbelmann, is unclear to me. Since the US trademark is in Niemeyer's name, and since at that time Niemeyer was independent, my offhand guess, and it would be exactly that, is that there was no link. A licensing agreement is possible, of course, but in this country at least the owner of a trademark wouldn't let a licensee trademark his brand in another country. But anything is possible.

Excellent info here. I wasn't able to find any of this on the web.
The tobacco was a brick inside a gold foil packet in the tin.

 

[judcole]

Interesting to see this. I smoked a fair amount of Niemeyer blends back when I first started smoking. Do not recall any of the rectangular tins, but that doesn't mean much.

 

[BROBS]

Interesting to see this. I smoked a fair amount of Niemeyer blends back when I first started smoking. Do not recall any of the rectangular tins, but that doesn't mean much.

Flying Dutchman was my dad’s staple.

 

[saltedplug]

Sometimes I would want to buy a tin simply by it's rectangular shape and decoration. I wouldn't, but I'd want to. . .