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charf

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Are you inhaling? I can't imagine getting sick on small half bowls without inhaling. Now if I inhaled pipe tobacco I'm sure I'd blow chunks after 10 -12 puffs. Aside from that I certainly agree with the other replies above mine.
Yes, it would be nice to know if your inhaling the smoke into your lungs. I’m not an expert but I am sure this would greatly effect how quickly and how much you feel the nicotine. Maybe do some further reading of the forum and change your style of smoking. Lots of information if you use the search function. Good luck.
 
Jun 18, 2020
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I would try a non aromatic tobacco. I'm leaning more toward you having an issue with the flavorings/additives rather than the nicotine. But, alas I am not a doctor nor do I portray on on television (or YouTube).
 
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Epip Oc'Cabot

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Hmm. If you are finding the experiences unpleasant, it seems the most fruitful path is to simply refrain from smoking a pipe. It is not a mandated hobby by any stretch of the imagination. If you like pipes and do not enjoy smoking, you could focus on being a collector.... there are several here of that ilk.

For me, I always found the nicotine quite pleasant and enjoyable through every bowlful of pipe tobacco in my 40+ years of indulging in pipes.
 
Jul 19, 2020
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Thanks for all the responses. I haven't been back to this thread since I made the thread because I just had a friend visiting from out of town.

So:

No, I don't inhale. I do a lot of exhaling from the nose, though, because it tastes so much better that way.

I bought 1-Q because people said it was not goopy and very mildly flavored, and I have to agree. It's the driest aromatic I've had, and its flavoring lasts about 20 seconds.

What is PG, and is it bad for you?

The other day I had half a bowl of Plum Pudding and felt fine. Yesterday I had half a bowl of Carter Hall (a burley, as I'm sure every one of you knows) and felt fine. Granted, both of these pipes were preceded by lots of food. I think that must be my problem; I don't eat much, haha, but when my guest was over from out of town, we did a lot of grilling and stuff.

I'm having Captain Black Royal as I type this. About 2/3 of the way through half a bowl. This stuff is more flavored and more goopy than 1-Q, but I'm not feeling sick or anything.
 
Jun 18, 2020
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Thanks for all the responses. I haven't been back to this thread since I made the thread because I just had a friend visiting from out of town.

So:

No, I don't inhale. I do a lot of exhaling from the nose, though, because it tastes so much better that way.

I bought 1-Q because people said it was not goopy and very mildly flavored, and I have to agree. It's the driest aromatic I've had, and its flavoring lasts about 20 seconds.

What is PG, and is it bad for you?

The other day I had half a bowl of Plum Pudding and felt fine. Yesterday I had half a bowl of Carter Hall (a burley, as I'm sure every one of you knows) and felt fine. Granted, both of these pipes were preceded by lots of food. I think that must be my problem; I don't eat much, haha, but when my guest was over from out of town, we did a lot of grilling and stuff.

I'm having Captain Black Royal as I type this. About 2/3 of the way through half a bowl. This stuff is more flavored and more goopy than 1-Q, but I'm not feeling sick or anything.
PG - Propylene Glycol
 
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hauntedmyst

Lifer
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My advice is get some GH&Co Rope tobacco or MacBaren Rustica. Fire up your largest bowl and power through no matter how nic sick you get. Pretend the bottom of that bowl is a fortified German bunker and you're one of the greatest generation storming the beach at Normandy and you wont stop until you've burned out those Nazi bastards at the bottom of the bowl! Do it for America!

By comparison to those tobaccos, a bowl of 1Q barely has any nicotine and you'll be good to go after than.
 

HitchensDog

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I have a low tolerance to nicotine as well, although not as bad as you do. I smoke a lot of 1-Q because it does have a low nicotine content compared to other blends I've smoked. However, I only use filtered pipes and I find that the 9mm carbon filters work best for cutting back the nicotine. I know others say those take away the flavors, but I really don't notice that. Probably because that's what I'm used to now. I used to smoke unfiltered pipes and the nicotine was just too much some times. Now, it's not really an issue anymore. Those 9mm filters really cut out a good deal of the nicotine.
 
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olkofri

Lifer
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No, I don't inhale. I do a lot of exhaling from the nose, though, because it tastes so much better that way.
You're retrohaling. The nicotine is getting absorbed by your sinuses epithelium whose surface area is larger than the mouth's. That may be a factor. Please, don't do that with a cigar.

I bought 1-Q because people said it was not goopy and very mildly flavored, and I have to agree. It's the driest aromatic I've had, and its flavoring lasts about 20 seconds.
1-Q.... dry? REALLY??? 1-Q has to be among the goopiest blends out there. Lane's blends are famous for their goopiness and for being nigh-impossible to dry, which is why they leave a soggy mess in the pipe afterwards. The amount of humectants the blenders add to the tobacco has a lot to do with this. These additives also tend to leave a chemical aftertaste on the tongue; that's why I say BCA doesn't stand for 'Black CAvendish' but for 'Big/Bad Chemical Aftertaste'! Propyleneglycol (PG) is one of those culprits: the chief one. Which brings me to your next question.

What is PG, and is it bad for you?
Propyleneglycol is a humectant. It's not toxic, but it makes the tobacco mighty goopy and some people can taste it and it ruins the experience for them; some other people might be sensitive to it and get some physical symptoms, such as nausa, methinks. It won't kill you or make you sick (unless you're sensitive or allergic to it), but your pipe will hate you for the sopping mess PC will leave in it.

I was being facetious in my previous comment about a 'PG hit': there's no such thing to my knowledge.

Also, bear in mind that the more moisture build up in the pipe during smoke, the hotter the smoke, and the greater the possibility of tongue burn.

The other day I had half a bowl of Plum Pudding and felt fine. Yesterday I had half a bowl of Carter Hall (a burley, as I'm sure every one of you knows) and felt fine. Granted, both of these pipes were preceded by lots of food. I think that must be my problem; I don't eat much, haha, but when my guest was over from out of town, we did a lot of grilling and stuff.
Yes, nicotine will hit harder on an empty stomach. You should always have something to eat before smoking. There's a reason why cigars are mostly a postprandial delicacy. Some of us can manage a bowl of a mild blend on an empty stomach, but we're not as intolerant to nicotine as you might be.

I'm having Captain Black Royal as I type this. About 2/3 of the way through half a bowl. This stuff is more flavored and more goopy than 1-Q, but I'm not feeling sick or anything.
???

Not being facetious this time.

At the risk of sounding like a jackass**: you're smoking bottom of the barrel stuff, mate. Craptain Black might be popular and ubiquitous but it's one of the most soggiest [sic, for emphasis] pipe tobacco wannabes out there. I think only Borkum Rippoff (Borkum Riff) is worse. Sticking with the likes of Lane's and Captain Bleak it's hardly good, my good man. You know, it's hard to soar with the eagles by hanging around with turkeys.

There are a plethora of aromatics out there that are not soggy, don't taste like naphta balls, have wonderful room note, and are very low in nicotine. Try some MacBaren Original Choice, which is rated as Very Mild. Also from MacBaren, try the Seven Seas series (their counterstroke to Captain Black, which makes the Captain look like a deck swabbing boy). For classy aromatics try Vauen's Auenland series. Sillem's makes top notch stuff, but it might be a bit stronger.

Note that I'm recommending aromatics because they're normally lower in nicotine than other genres. And also because they rock. ?

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**Also, not trying to put you down for your current smoking choices. I'm really trying to help out here, otherwise I'd just laugh and not take the time to write (and subsequently proofread and correct) a long post. Nicotine doesn't like me either: except that my reaction to it is different: I either feel it or I don't, and when I finally feel it it's always unpleasant. Thankfully, I hardly ever get nicotine effects from a pipe, and I stick mostly to very mild or mild blends—mostly aromatics.
 
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BROBS

Lifer
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Like for example here are the ingredients of Captain Black. I can guess 1Q is similar. Most other tobaccos do not have all these BS preservatives and chemicals. They may have some PG and flavoring and that’s it. So it could be a preservative that you are reacting to.


Detailed view
BRAND NAME:Captain Black Regular
MANUFACTURER OR IMPORTER:BAT (British American Tobacco GmbH)
BRAND CHARACTERISTIC:Pouch, Tin, 50 gr, 250 gr, Non Filter, Domestic, Travel Retail | Pouch, box, 50gr, 250 gr, without filter, domestic, travel retail
COUNTRY:DE
YEAR:2011
PRODUCT TYPE:Pipe tobacco
WEIGHT PRODUCT UNIT:1000 mg
WEIGHT OF TOBACCO:775.69324 mg
SUCROSE, CANE SUGAR
  • Quantity: 108.505 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
1,2-PROPYLENE GLYCOL
  • Quantity: 72.97293 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: solvent
LICORICE POWDER EXTRACT
  • Quantity: 12.961 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
VANILLIN
  • Quantity: 11.5255 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
INVERT SUGAR
  • Quantity: 10.55 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: sheathing
COCOA POWDER
  • Quantity: 3.818 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
CITRIC ACID
  • Quantity: 1.876 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
SODIUM BENZOAT
  • Quantity: 1.47062 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative
PUBLIC: FLAVORS BELOW 0.1% W / W
  • Quantity: 0.46788 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
BENZOIC ACID
  • Quantity: 0.15985 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative
 
Dec 6, 2019
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Like for example here are the ingredients of Captain Black. I can guess 1Q is similar. Most other tobaccos do not have all these BS preservatives and chemicals. They may have some PG and flavoring and that’s it. So it could be a preservative that you are reacting to.


Detailed view
BRAND NAME:Captain Black Regular
MANUFACTURER OR IMPORTER:BAT (British American Tobacco GmbH)
BRAND CHARACTERISTIC:Pouch, Tin, 50 gr, 250 gr, Non Filter, Domestic, Travel Retail | Pouch, box, 50gr, 250 gr, without filter, domestic, travel retail
COUNTRY:DE
YEAR:2011
PRODUCT TYPE:Pipe tobacco
WEIGHT PRODUCT UNIT:1000 mg
WEIGHT OF TOBACCO:775.69324 mg
SUCROSE, CANE SUGAR
  • Quantity: 108.505 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
1,2-PROPYLENE GLYCOL
  • Quantity: 72.97293 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: solvent
LICORICE POWDER EXTRACT
  • Quantity: 12.961 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
VANILLIN
  • Quantity: 11.5255 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
INVERT SUGAR
  • Quantity: 10.55 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: sheathing
COCOA POWDER
  • Quantity: 3.818 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
CITRIC ACID
  • Quantity: 1.876 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
SODIUM BENZOAT
  • Quantity: 1.47062 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative
PUBLIC: FLAVORS BELOW 0.1% W / W
  • Quantity: 0.46788 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
BENZOIC ACID
  • Quantity: 0.15985 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative


Now do a breakdown of sillems for the professor.
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
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Now do a breakdown of sillems for the professor.
Sillems Copenhagen:
BRAND NAME:Sillems Copenhagen 50g - 756 (o)
MANUFACTURER OR IMPORTER:Kohlhase, Kopp & Co
COUNTRY:DE
YEAR:2011
PRODUCT TYPE:Pipe tobacco
WEIGHT PRODUCT UNIT:1000 mg
WEIGHT OF TOBACCO:1000 mg
SUGAR (INVERTED)
  • Quantity: 109.49778 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
PROPYLENE GLYCOL
  • Quantity: 38.74117 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: humectant
ETHYL ALCOHOL
  • Quantity: 26.82968 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: solvent
FLAVOR
  • Quantity: 22.44868 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
LICORICE EXTRACT POWDER
  • Quantity: 15.01397 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
LICORICE COMET BLOK
  • Quantity: 10.28076 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
GLUCOSE
  • Quantity: 9.57247 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
DEXTROSE
  • Quantity: 7.96221 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
VANILLIN
  • Quantity: 6.13666 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor

The grain alcohol here would be the carrier for the flavors. The PG is like half of the Captain.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,183
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Sillems Copenhagen:
BRAND NAME:Sillems Copenhagen 50g - 756 (o)
MANUFACTURER OR IMPORTER:Kohlhase, Kopp & Co
COUNTRY:DE
YEAR:2011
PRODUCT TYPE:Pipe tobacco
WEIGHT PRODUCT UNIT:1000 mg
WEIGHT OF TOBACCO:1000 mg
SUGAR (INVERTED)
  • Quantity: 109.49778 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
PROPYLENE GLYCOL
  • Quantity: 38.74117 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: humectant
ETHYL ALCOHOL
  • Quantity: 26.82968 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: solvent
FLAVOR
  • Quantity: 22.44868 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
LICORICE EXTRACT POWDER
  • Quantity: 15.01397 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
LICORICE COMET BLOK
  • Quantity: 10.28076 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: serving
GLUCOSE
  • Quantity: 9.57247 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
DEXTROSE
  • Quantity: 7.96221 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor
VANILLIN
  • Quantity: 6.13666 mg
  • Category: tobacco (being burned)
  • Function: aroma / flavor

The grain alcohol here would be the carrier for the flavors. The PG is like half of the Captain.
Whoa! I shouldn't smoke that. All that alcohol is gonna kill my liver!!! :eek:
:ROFLMAO:
 

Mr.Mike

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 11, 2019
844
2,049
Pennsylvania
Like for example here are the ingredients of Captain Black. I can guess 1Q is similar. Most other tobaccos do not have all these BS preservatives and chemicals. They may have some PG and flavoring and that’s it. So it could be a preservative that you are reacting to.


Detailed view
BRAND NAME:Captain Black Regular
MANUFACTURER OR IMPORTER:BAT (British American Tobacco GmbH)
BRAND CHARACTERISTIC:Pouch, Tin, 50 gr, 250 gr, Non Filter, Domestic, Travel Retail | Pouch, box, 50gr, 250 gr, without filter, domestic, travel retail
COUNTRY:DE
YEAR:2011
PRODUCT TYPE:Pipe tobacco
WEIGHT PRODUCT UNIT:1000 mg
WEIGHT OF TOBACCO:775.69324 mg
SUCROSE, CANE SUGAR
  • Quantity: 108.505 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
1,2-PROPYLENE GLYCOL
  • Quantity: 72.97293 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: solvent
LICORICE POWDER EXTRACT
  • Quantity: 12.961 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
VANILLIN
  • Quantity: 11.5255 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
INVERT SUGAR
  • Quantity: 10.55 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: sheathing
COCOA POWDER
  • Quantity: 3.818 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
CITRIC ACID
  • Quantity: 1.876 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
SODIUM BENZOAT
  • Quantity: 1.47062 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative
PUBLIC: FLAVORS BELOW 0.1% W / W
  • Quantity: 0.46788 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: flavoring
BENZOIC ACID
  • Quantity: 0.15985 mg
  • Category: Tobacco (burned)
  • Function: preservative
That's awesome! where did you get that info?