New Zealand’s ‘Tobacco Endgame’ Law

[timpiper]

The first reading of a new bill took place in the NZ parliament on the 26th of July.

You can read about it here -

New Zealand’s ‘tobacco endgame’ law will be a world first for health – here’s what the modelling shows us

Legislation now entering parliament aims to make Aotearoa New Zealand smokefree by 2025. Forecast effects show huge potential health gains, especially for Māori.

theconversation.com

The bill provides for three key strategies:

• drastically reducing nicotine content in tobacco so it is no longer addictive (known as “denicotinisation” or “very low nicotine cigarettes” (VLNC))
• a 90% to 95% reduction in the number of shops that can sell tobacco
• making it illegal to sell tobacco to people born in 2009 or later (thus creating a “smokefree generation”).

 

[The Clay King]

@Ahi Ka had better make sure his tobacco crop is well guarded
I've seen the Australian and New Zealand police & customs programmes where they destroy cannabis; it might be the same with tobacco soon!!!

 

[Ahi Ka]

The bill provides for three key strategies:

• drastically reducing nicotine content in tobacco so it is no longer addictive (known as “denicotinisation” or “very low nicotine cigarettes” (VLNC))
• a 90% to 95% reduction in the number of shops that can sell tobacco
• making it illegal to sell tobacco to people born in 2009 or later (thus creating a “smokefree generation”).

So basically…

1) make smoking a hobby
2) finally start some B&Ms who specialise in tobacco products
3) if someone is under the legal age, they get it for free.

Yeah I can get behind that.

 

[timpiper]

Limiting the amount of nicotine in the cigs will just need you need to smoke more. So how is that better for your health. But then they get more tax which they wont complain about ?

 

[AJL67]

Isn’t this the country that just locked down yugely because of one COVID case? Daddy government in action.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Isn’t this the country that just locked down yugely because of one COVID case? Daddy government in action.

Keep your comments to the topic at hand bro. ✌?

 

[Ahi Ka]

Limiting the amount of nicotine in the cigs will just need you need to smoke more. So how is that better for your health. But then they get more tax which they wont complain about ?

What’s essentially happening is the government has decided that vaping will be our country’s chosen nicotine delivery system.

 

[Hillcrest]

The memes are already out:

 

[Piping Rooster]

 

[Chasing Embers]

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Those specialty premium B&Ms won't make it, as there will be no new customers in the pipeline.. you like how I used the word PIPEline.

The hobby shop has new customers everyday, and they struggle to sell those model plane kits for the premium price that is required.

Those B&Ms ain't going to make it.

And it doesn't say make new tobacco shops available.. It says REDUCE them by 95%.

I sure wish y'all the best of luck though.. and whatever you guys decide to allow these people to do to you, I hope you are truly ok with it.

If you think they're just teasing as they rub their hands up your inner thigh, they ain't. They won't be happy until they get those panties off, and you're cooking em breakfast.

 

[Ahi Ka]

As far as I am aware, there are no B&Ms in New Zealand. There is only one online shop which stocks a variety of pipe tobacco, maybe a couple more which have cigars. Petrol stations, supermarkets and dairys have been the main retailers where one can purchase cigarettes/RYO - and even then, it’s all behind closed cabinets, zero advertising, the packages are covered in health warnings and you need to ask for what you want as opposed to asking what they have.

for clarity’s sake, my first post above was satire.

also, in context of pipe smoking and NZ’s tobacco laws, the import ban two years ago was the game changer. This “end game” bill literally changes nothing.

i am totally supportive of anything which is a genuine attempt to reduce the health inequalities experienced by our society’s indigenous demographic, especially when it is grounded on the enduring autonomy and self determination of iwi/hapū Māori, which as affirmed in te Tiriti o waitangi has obligations on the crown/government

 

[sablebrush52]

What’s essentially happening is the government has decided that vaping will be our country’s chosen nicotine delivery system.

Well, THAT'S a bad idea, considering the health problems associated with current vaping products.

 

[OzPiper]

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That's Dopey Dan Andrews - Premier of Victoria, Oz

Personally responsible for the longest lockdowns outside of China.
Understandable in the light of his attempts to make Victoria an outpost of China (tradewise).

 

[Ahi Ka]

Well, THAT'S a bad idea, considering the health problems associated with current vaping products.

100% agree. It’s crazy to see how much freedom, unregulated activity and social acceptance the vaping industry has been given at the same time tobacco is becoming outlawed.

I have noticed an increase in Fijian tobacco ropes becoming available via social media as an (illegal) alternative to vaping or shelf prices

 

[mortonbriar]

Once you start growing at home, hearing this stuff is kind of like hearing that tomato sales are going to be banned...oh well, I guess I will grow a few more.

 

[simong]

What’s essentially happening is the government has decided that vaping will be our country’s chosen nicotine delivery system.

Wonder who came up with that decision? Bet it was Murray!

 

[OzPiper]

Once you start growing at home, hearing this stuff is kind of like hearing that tomato sales are going to be banned...oh well, I guess I will grow a few more.

Lucky for those of you living in Kiwiland
Here in the wonderful, wonderful land of Oz, that's prohibited. ?

 

[mortonbriar]

Lucky for those of you living in Kiwiland
Here in the wonderful, wonderful land of Oz, that's prohibited. ?

Toto, we are not in Kansas anymore...

 

[Egg Shen]

100% agree. It’s crazy to see how much freedom, unregulated activity and social acceptance the vaping industry has been given at the same time tobacco is becoming outlawed.

I have noticed an increase in Fijian tobacco ropes becoming available via social media as an (illegal) alternative to vaping or shelf prices

Are the Fijian tobaccos pleasant?