New Stem For My Edwards. Such Disappointment

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

Watch for Updates Twice a Week

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,610
I'd elaborate a little on Edwards pipes. They were a significant pipe maker in the U.S. for many years and as mentioned did the house pipes for Iwan Ries for a number of years. Those were oil-cured Algerian briar. I don't know much about types of briar, but these have handsome grain and have held up functionality and in appearance.

The billiard I have, but especially the Canadian, have graciously ample bowls. If I had been jbrewer, I certainly would have gone for a new stem on this one. If Tim West or some other good repairman fixes him up with a good new stem, it will be a jewel of a pipe. I wouldn't bother attempting to smoke it with this haphazard job. Go for a real stem replacement.

Likewise, if you come across an Edwards (or Benton, or other Edwards pipe) in online retail or at a pipe show, I'd give it a serious look. The sourcing on the briar was expertly done.
 
  • Like
Reactions: newbroom

Jbrewer2002

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 17, 2023
672
4,972
Somerset Ohio
I'd elaborate a little on Edwards pipes. They were a significant pipe maker in the U.S. for many years and as mentioned did the house pipes for Iwan Ries for a number of years. Those were oil-cured Algerian briar. I don't know much about types of briar, but these have handsome grain and have held up functionality and in appearance.

The billiard I have, but especially the Canadian, have graciously ample bowls. If I had been jbrewer, I certainly would have gone for a new stem on this one. If Tim West or some other good repairman fixes him up with a good new stem, it will be a jewel of a pipe. I wouldn't bother attempting to smoke it with this haphazard job. Go for a real stem replacement.

Likewise, if you come across an Edwards (or Benton, or other Edwards pipe) in online retail or at a pipe show, I'd give it a serious look. The sourcing on the briar was expertly done.
From researching the brand a bit. It looks like they did use other briars on some of there pipe. This particular one is oil-cured Algerian briar. I just love the grain pattern on this one also. I’ll definitely be paying to have another stem made.
 

bluegrassbrian

Your Mom's Favorite Pipe Smoker
Aug 27, 2016
6,624
63,620
41
Louisville
Could be worse. I waited and waited for this design to show up. The artisan really put in the effort on this beauty.

View attachment 238093
Who?! I'd think they deserve the notoriety.



I was thinking about bringing this pipe to the Columbus pipe show to see if Tim or someone there would work on it. Just not Pipes and Pleasure (has a table at the show) as that’s the shop I went to.
Henceforth known to me as Pipes and Displeasure.
 

peteguy

Lifer
Jan 19, 2012
1,531
916
Algerian Briar Edwards seem to be decent and have a small following. I have seen a few shapes that caught my eye over the years. Under rated in my book.

I can do better work than that, ask Georged. :) That is as bad as I have seen. WOW
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jbrewer2002
Mar 1, 2014
3,658
4,960
That's almost certainly a case of not having the desired size & shape available in a conventional design, so someone grabbed a Twin-Bore that WAS, and then modified it.
Which would have been great, many high end pipes have the button slot drilled out and not cut with a disc, except whoever was working on this stem totally botched the whole process.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jbrewer2002

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
6,012
16,271
Thanks everyone. I didn’t even know a twin bore was a thing.

Yup, they are.

While virtually no one today walks around with a pipe in their mouth, at one time they did. (In 1949, 20% of all adult males in the US smoked a pipe... a large portion of them because it was "fashionable & sexy" the same way beards are now.)

Result? Chewing through stems was common in the 40's and 50's, and the Twin-Bore was born.

After the pipe faded away as a fashion item, though, the need for Twin-Bores shrank to near zero, and pipe repair shops were left holding a large supply of the critters.

Today, some shops are using them to avoid replenishing their supply of conventional designs.



P8066744.jpg
Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.16.15 PM.png


Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.40.58 PM.png
Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.41.56 PM.png
Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.42.26 PM.png
Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.42.44 PM.png
Screen Shot 2023-08-06 at 4.43.03 PM.png
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
6,012
16,271
Which would have been great, many high end pipes have the button slot drilled out and not cut with a disc, except whoever was working on this stem totally botched the whole process.

In principle, yes, but in reality the majority of Twin-Bores are drilled too wide for the material "between the tubes" to be removed and the resulting slot to have a properly supported roof and floor.
 
Mar 1, 2014
3,658
4,960
If they just would have made it a triple bore instead of twin bore I'd probably consider it a superior design to a slotted stem.

Speaking of which, I couldn't stand the air restriction on my P-Lip:
8235F959-4BA6-46EE-826A-CAA48F532A34.jpeg

The Peterson P-lip stem has a fabulous wide air channel inside but for whatever reason someone decided Peterson pipes should use the most restricted button of any factory pipe on the market.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: newbroom

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,642
31,192
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Looking at this thread I get this distinct impression about stem jobs from shops. There are two ways they look at it. One is the stem is an important part of the pipe and needs as much love and attention as the briar. The other is slap something on there and get the pipe back out on the road who really cares about anything beyond the pipe is now functional again.
 

jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
3,172
7,407
Yup, they are.

While virtually no one today walks around with a pipe in their mouth, at one time they did. (In 1949, 20% of all adult males in the US smoked a pipe... a large portion of them because it was "fashionable & sexy" the same way beards are now.)

Result? Chewing through stems was common in the 40's and 50's, and the Twin-Bore was born.

After the pipe faded away as a fashion item, though, the need for Twin-Bores shrank to near zero, and pipe repair shops were left holding a large supply of the critters.

Today, some shops are using them to avoid replenishing their supply of conventional designs.



View attachment 238300
View attachment 238301


View attachment 238302
View attachment 238303
View attachment 238305
View attachment 238306
View attachment 238307
You know those are all pictures of me with a different haircut, right?