Thanks all will take a look into trying to order a MM in to try they are so cheap that even with postage costs there is nothing to lose. Til then will just keep going with the Peterson, tried it earlier outside since the weather was alright for a while and actually smoked better, got a few hints of vanilla and a sort of peaty taste like Scotch whiskey, was only a tiny bit but still a start. Thanks again for all the help guys, seems like a great community glad I joined