New Samuel Gawith tins

[Mez]

l feel paying the premium for a tin should come with the benefit of being able to store it long term. S.G does not seem to agree lol

 

[gawithhoggarth]

l feel paying the premium for a tin should come with the benefit of being able to store it long term. S.G does not seem to agree lol

Who says you are paying a premium for a tin? And GH does not agree.

 

[AirOne]

C&D does.
Many of their blends are specifically made to age. They even have a series dedicated to long term storage. This is why they use the tins they do, and leave some room in the tins so the tobacco can "breathe".
Same with GLP obviously. Several of his tin descriptions suggest years of aging, just like C&D.

True, but still: How're These Tins Workin' Out for Ya'? :: General Pipe Smoking Discussion - https://pipesmagazine.com/forums/threads/howre-these-tins-workin-out-for-ya.111183/

 

[blametony]

Who says you are paying a premium for a tin? And GH does not agree.

I'm assuming he means the premium over bulk tobacco. No reason to be combative. We're simply talking and posing legitimate questions. He was stating an opinion, which is why it started with "I feel".

 

[Mez]

I'm assuming he means the premium over bulk tobacco. No reason to be combative. We're simply talking and posing legitimate questions. He was stating an opinion, which is why it started with "I feel".

I think a good portion of the market would like tins that hold a seal but they do not want to oblige us. Guess that is why they make mylar lol.

 

[BingBong]

The tins from the last couple of years have had pretty fierce vacuums, at least for Cabbies. Bit of a fight to open and I'm fine with that, the contents are delightful.

 

[jpberg]

how many more times do you need to state this.if people wish to store long term its up to them/there risk!!!

Oh, it’s endless.
Someone should just start a “Hey Rachel, you should….” thread so we have all these gems in one place for posterity.

 

[verporchting]

I had a polar opposite experience. I recently opened Ennerdale, 1792, and Navy flake. All 3 of them very recently shipped from Gawith to Smokingpipes. Huge pain in the rear to open. I've cracked Gawith tins in the past easily with a coin/key. Lifting at the divot in the corner hearing the vacuum hiss. These ones I had to run a bottle opener lengthwise to coax the lid. For the life of me I couldn't get the 1792 to open without bending the lid. Lifting the edge along the divot produced no audible hiss. I won't claim this difficulty is correlated to the seals efficacy though. Tobacco was fresh (as they should be since they're recent shipments) and tastes like they should.

The irony here is that if 1792 were shipped in an unsealed, indeed perforated, manila envelope with no attempt whatsoever to seal it, fifteen years later when you tore it open to smoke it the flakes would still be dripping wet and require another fifteen years of drying time to even stand a chance of being lit with anything less than an oxy-acetylene torch …

 

[litup]

I had a polar opposite experience. I recently opened Ennerdale, 1792, and Navy flake. All 3 of them very recently shipped from Gawith to Smokingpipes. Huge pain in the rear to open. I've cracked Gawith tins in the past easily with a coin/key. Lifting at the divot in the corner hearing the vacuum hiss. These ones I had to run a bottle opener lengthwise to coax the lid. For the life of me I couldn't get the 1792 to open without bending the lid. Lifting the edge along the divot produced no audible hiss. I won't claim this difficulty is correlated to the seals efficacy though. Tobacco was fresh (as they should be since they're recent shipments) and tastes like they should.

Just opened a brand new tin of 1792 two days ago and had the same experience. I was afraid I was going to bend the pick tool from my tamper because the tin was so hard to open.

 

[Briarcutter]

C&D does.
Many of their blends are specifically made to age. They even have a series dedicated to long term storage. This is why they use the tins they do, and leave some room in the tins so the tobacco can "breathe".
Same with GLP obviously. Several of his tin descriptions suggest years of aging, just like C&D.

Saying it and tinning tobacco in a tin that will last twenty years are two different things. I'm not positive, but I believe the tins they use were designed for food service,think chip dip,at least the two ounce tins. I'm pretty sure they don't have their tins designed for tobacco use. Are they suggesting aging tobacco in their tins or in other containers??? Aging tobacco is relatively new, C&D hasn't always suggested this. 40 years ago I never heard anyone talk about aging pipe tobacco, not that some didn't, it was just never discussed as it is today.

 

[Oddball]

@blametony

Option 1. Leave it in TINS. I do this and have never lost one.
Option 2. Seal in food saver bags. I also do this and have never lost one.
Option 3. Like all other tins after you open or if you want to guarantee a good seal, put in jar. This works BUT can condensate for wetter flakes. My St. James does this in the jar, Navy doesn't seem to have a problem. Neither mold as a result.
Option 4. Mylar sealing of tins. I have not done this. Seems like overkill.

We are a better resource than the producers and or makers on this. They have their motives and cellars don't always line up. Plus we nice.

 

[blametony]

@blametony

Option 1. Leave it in TINS. I do this and have never lost one.
Option 2. Seal in food saver bags. I also do this and have never lost one.
Option 3. Like all other tins after you open or if you want to guarantee a good seal, put in jar. This works BUT can condensate for wetter flakes. My St. James does this in the jar, Navy doesn't seem to have a problem. Neither mold as a result.
Option 4. Mylar sealing of tins. I have not done this. Seems like overkill.

We are a better resource than the producers and or makers on this. They have their motives and cellars don't always line up. Plus we nice.

Very well said.

 

[Briarcutter]

Option 1. Leave it in TINS. I do this and have never lost one.

You may very well have never had a problem. However, they can go bad. I've probably seen hundreds of dried out "sealed" tins. From round,square,rectangle and pop tops and of course cutter tops. Seen many 200gram pop top Sobrani tins go bad. So they certainly can go bad seal wise. Will they? That's the million dollar question, but they certainly can, many from the inside out.I smoke ODF daily, last purchase was 2011 I believe, and never had a compromised tin of ODF, but come to think of it, I vacuum sealed most of them in the five pack. But that's only 14 years old. Relatively young for pipe tobacco IMO.

 

[Oddball]

You may very well have never had a problem. However, they can go bad.

I don't refute the going bad. Just sharing what has worked for me to increase his sample size of info.

 

[Oddball]

And something someone else has done for consideration, if we are getting uber tech

 

[Briarcutter]

And something someone else has done for consideration, if we are getting uber tech

I've vacuum sealed many of my square and rectangle tins, not a bad idea at all.

 

[Hutch Piper]

Most of my SG tins pop right off with little force. I just jar them now.

 

[Oddball]

I think it's also valid that those dadgum flakes could use some drying. You either do it with relights and puffs or open air or crummy tin seals.. all methods work. :P

 

[tmc]

Most of my SG tins pop right off with little force. I just jar them now.

This has been my experience with recent SG tins.

 

[Brad H]

This current release St James tin I basically had to pry off with a crowbar. Nearly broke my tri-tool trying to open it. It did give a good hiss when I opened it finally.