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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I always give high points for pipes that come without pre-carbing the bowls, but neither have I ever had a problem with pre-carb. I bought nearly all of my Petes about eight years ago, lower-end and mid-price pipes, and none of them have had quality control or problems breaking them in. Maybe with Laudisi buying them, Peterson will improve on this score, though the current inventory will be drifting through the system for some years. If you find the Pete designs irresistible, maybe best to just take the gamble. But it is a bitter disappointment to purchase a new pipe that requires restoration.

 

thomasw

Lifer
Dec 5, 2016
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4,728
Maybe with Laudisi buying them, Peterson will improve on this score...
I hope so, too!
But it is a bitter disappointment to purchase a new pipe that requires restoration.
There are a number of Peterson shapes to which I am attracted, but having experienced this twice and being now bullet shy, I am in 'wait and see' camp.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,585
121,182
As Al pointed out, check the shank out too.
Didn't read the whole thread did you?
Examining the mortise with a flashlight,there is quite a bit of red stain in the shank
Thought so. Had the same problem with a 2017 SPD pipe. After a few smokes it went away, but glad SPC is working with you. :clap:

 

seacaptain

Lifer
Apr 24, 2015
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10
I always give high points for pipes that come without pre-carbing the bowls, but neither have I ever had a problem with pre-carb.
I had a custom pipe with a bowl coating, and it was nasty. I hated it. So much so, I won't buy one pre coated anymore.

 

dochudson

Lifer
May 11, 2012
1,635
12
The standard Pete beat down! I'm willing to bet on a blind taste test very few to tell a carbonized bowl from a virgin!

 

workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
2,794
4,230
The Faroe Islands
My 999 tasted nice from first puff. I have a Karl Erik billiard that is coated. The coating is noticeable when I smoke it, and I have smoked 20-30 bowls in it. I am slowly winning the fight, and it would never occur to me to cry about it.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,650
Looking at the up-side here, the Peterson 999 Rhodesian is a much-loved shape in all the various series. Mine is a Killarney, my only P-lip pipe. They are a good size and weight for smoking many different cuts and blends, and they are especially well balanced in hand. So once you get the non-tobacco taste worked out of yours, I think you will have a friend for life.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,183
15,034
The Arm of Orion
Hmm, some here suggesting the alkotreatment. I noticed a sticky 'cake' was building up on the upper section of my Vauen Basic and decided to ream it off with my Czech tool. Then I gave it a wipe with gin. I always wipe my pipes with a napkin after smoking them, wipe them again and again till the napkin comes clean; however, when I wiped the (clean) bowl with gin, a lot of black stuff came off. Was that the coating?

 
Dec 28, 2015
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^^ Hey Workman maybe it’s just a Danish thing but I have also never tasted the bowl coatings on Peterson’s or Savinellis but the only two pipes I have that that tasted funky were both Danish. A Nording Signature that had a weird textured bowl coating (sort of rubbery) and a Tom Eltang poker. It has taken me 7 months but just today I finally had my first bowl in my Eltang poker that I did NOT taste the coating. It has been gradually disappearing with each bowl but took a very long time. But as I said I have bought several Pete’s with coated bowls and never had any strange taste at all. Maybe I’m just lucky.

 

irishearl

Lifer
Aug 2, 2016
2,292
4,137
Kansas
I've never bought a new Pete with sloppy staining. Seems like when I hear of this occurring it is with lower end lines. Hopefully the new owners will nip it in the bud with even those lines.

 

brooklynpiper

Part of the Furniture Now
May 8, 2018
674
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Vauen started doing this as well? No! I love my Vauen and was thinking of getting another. My Vauen may be my favorite pipe.

 

bigpond

Lifer
Oct 14, 2014
2,019
14
OP: the sour taste is likely the bowl coat Peterson uses. I have an unstained (nude) Pete that had the exact same sour taste as a brown stained Pete. Peterson, like many large scale manufacturers dip stain their pipes, but allegedly cap the ends to avoid interior stain. Clearly, this isn’t the case for you.
The thing about pipes is that they are always a work in progress. Sometimes you need to adjust an airway, sand a rim, bend a stem, or in this case remove errant staining....the user input will continue for as long as you use the pipe (reaming, cleaning, polishing, etc). Some times the pipe is well made but the briar needs seasoning and the only way to achieve this after the block is carved is through smoking. The point is a perfect pipes is a fallacy not a norm.
Think about how deep a stain solution gets absorbed into the wood. It penetrates quite deep. IMO, I wouldn't buy a new pipe and be expected to spend hours trying to clean the freakin' thing up. If it were my first time, I'd ask for a refund.
Ugh...if you believe this is the case go split one of your pipes. I’ll replace it if you can show deep stain penetration. Briar is as likely to deeply absorb anything as it is to burst in to flames while smoking. There’s a reason briar is used over balsa.

 
Jul 28, 2016
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Finland-Scandinavia-EU
JpmCwjr:Correct,been doing this bowl pre carbonation and coating removals on each of my new Petersons and Stanwells,and Savinellis, my Petersons had the most thick innerbowl coatings ever imaginable,to remove that black mud'I had to use tons of alcohol dipped papertowels,I hate that, whereas my French make Briars all came with 'naked bowls.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,361
Carmel Valley, CA
Carbonized: blackened due to application of heat, so the chamber is lightly charred. Don't know if any maker is doing that currently.

Coating: a liquid is applied and dried.

 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,445
5,120
Tennessee
The coating I can't stand is the stuff in the HS Studio pipes. I'm don't trust the Chinese to coat stuff.
Sorry about your Pete. All mine have tasted great. And are less filling. So they are a win-win.

 
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