New Penzance tins!

[iamn8]

this stuff is overrated

 

[Chasing Embers]

I think I'm overly sensitive to Latakia. That's all I can taste in Penzance.

 

[andrew]

+1 Nate. I remember reading their tinning machine was broken on this forum awhile ago which was why there was no special latakia flake or brown flake, are the Penzance tins the same kind as SLF? If so maybe they've just started to release tins again because they had to switch to a new machine

 

[whitesands77]

That makes sense because the SLF and former Penzance tins are identical. It will be interesting to see if SLF comes out in the same new tins as well. I was able to pick up a Stonehaven tin as well. They are the same.

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[stbruno70]

The Esoterica labels have always looked surprisingly shoddy for such a great line of pipe tobacco.

 

[andrew]

There would be no problems with 8 ounce bags as they're prepackaged. What's probably happening is Germain's came up with a sensible business plan and broke down and bought a new tinning machine

 

[woodsroad]

The small Germain/Esso rectangular tins are not big enough to meet the new warning label requirements.

 

[darwin]

The labels look as if they've been done on a good home style printer onto the closest fitting label size that could be found at the local office supply store.

 

[sablebrush52]

Plus I'm not entirely clear on the status of the Esoterica line and the cutoff date, so it might be a moot point anyway.

Good point, but I believe that Germain's was producing these long before Feb 15th 2007. How much of Germain's business is wrapped up in producing the Esoterica line?
BTW,keep an eye on that Predicate date.
Snipped from a post by JimInks in another forum:
On Tuesday, the House Appropriations Committee voted in favor of an amendment to the FY 2017 Agriculture Appropriations Bill that would change the predicate date — also known as the grandfather date — for e-cigarettes, cigars and other tobacco products covered under the deeming rule from Feb. 15, 2007, as it is now proposed, to whatever date the FDA's final deeming rule goes into effect.
The bipartisan amendment, introduced by Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) and Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.), passed the committee by a 31-19 vote.
That would move the cutoff to August 8th of this year.

 

[huntertrw]

"Looks like the labels are put on by hand."
Oooh! First there was hand-blended tobacco. Now we have hand-labeled tobacco! What will they think of next?

 

[balkisobrains]

balkisobrains

Plus I'm not entirely clear on the status of the Esoterica line and the cutoff date, so it might be a moot point anyway.

sablebrush52

Good point, but I believe that Germain's was producing these long before Feb 15th 2007. How much of Germain's business is wrapped up in producing the Esoterica line?
BTW,keep an eye on that Predicate date.
Snipped from a post by JimInks in another forum:
On Tuesday, the House Appropriations Committee voted in favor of an amendment to the FY 2017 Agriculture Appropriations Bill that would change the predicate date — also known as the grandfather date — for e-cigarettes, cigars and other tobacco products covered under the deeming rule from Feb. 15, 2007, as it is now proposed, to whatever date the FDA's final deeming rule goes into effect.
The bipartisan amendment, introduced by Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) and Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.), passed the committee by a 31-19 vote.
That would move the cutoff to August 8th of this year.

Awesome info, hopefully that happens. I think that cigars might have been cleared already, but I might be wrong about that.
Packaging/labeling changes occurring after Feb 15, 2007 but prior to the 8/8/16 cutoff, to a pipe blend on sale prior to Feb 15, 2007 through to the 8/8/16 cut-off, does that matter or not matter when considering the initial date "on the market"? I feel like I knew this, but forgot. Wondering (if it matters to begin with) when the switch from Esotericas circular tins to rectangles occurred, and when the bags started to be used, and when the bag labels got changed.
I actually came back to ask exactly when Esoterica began to hit the market in these newest tins, thinking about that 8/8/16 date. If it was after, would that not cause a problem if they are not going to use the pre-"8/8/16" style rectangle tins and bags anymore?

 

[whitesands77]

I was talking with the B&M owner today. I asked him why the new Stonehaven tins. He mentioned that Germain released about 20 tins of the Stonehaven to the US market prior to the 8-8-16 date. His thought was that it was a strategic move to still sell Stonehaven due to possible complications with the distribution of the 8oz bags in the future.

 

[woodsroad]

Snipped from a post by JimInks in another forum:
On Tuesday, the House Appropriations Committee voted in favor of an amendment to the FY 2017 Agriculture Appropriations Bill that would change the predicate date — also known as the grandfather date — for e-cigarettes, cigars and other tobacco products covered under the deeming rule from Feb. 15, 2007, as it is now proposed, to whatever date the FDA's final deeming rule goes into effect.

That was back in April of this year and to the best of my knowledge, it went nowhere. DOA.