Negatives or Hazards of Retrohaling?

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jvnshr

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Of coarse not, just like no one would put tobacco up there nose either. Now.... when your chewing your t-bone steak ( with your mouth closed I trust ) your breathing in and out thru your nose. As your breaking it down in your mouth all the aroma's from the steak and those wonderful juices are going thru your nostrils and you pick up all the nuances. Hence.... retrohaling !!
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jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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Please: No sucking up to Harris. His ego is big enough....
I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

 

lestrout

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I sat in on a fascinating talk by the head of the Monell Chemical Senses Center during a lunch downtown at the Science History Institute (recently named the Chemical Heritage Foundation), right across from the new American Revolution Museum near Independence Square. One of the things he mentioned is that human noses have over 396 olfactory receptors, whereas the mouth/tongue only have a relative handful, which only detect saltiness, bitterness, sweetness, umami, and sourness. I retrohale with wine and pipe smoke. When you eat or drink, a lot of the flavors migrate from the mouth itself up through nasal passages.
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PS - if you are ever in Philadelphia, both of these museums are must-see.

 

unadoptedlamp

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I just don't follow the logic of having to put smoke through your sinuses to get full flavour. Absolutely, I'm not saying what you should or should not do, because ultimately, I don't care. We can only speak from experience, so I'm merely sharing mine for those who are considering it, because it does differ from the fans of the practice.
When I smoke, I do not plug my nose. Same as when I enjoy the flavours of food. In both experiences, it is very fulfilling. Of course you will taste neither well if your nose is plugged. However, since my nose is not pugged while I smoke, I am able to get an incredible range of nuanced and interesting flavours from the mouth alone without bombarding the sinuses with a massive flush of tobacco smoke.
I have tried the snork/retrohale and all I am saying is that in my experience, it is not necessary to achieve the same flavour. In fact, I get MORE flavour when not doing the retrohale, and it is longer lasting. Obviously, we all have different experiences and preferences, and I do find the experiences of the retrohalers here curious. Perhaps I am one of those "supertasters", which makes it unnecessary to retrohale. Who knows.
Some people enjoy cigarette smoke in the lungs for that "lung feel". The sinus cavity flush with smoke seems like a similar thing to me, although I know many will disagree. Which is fine.
However, if there is any concern about health (a personal preference to be sure), the sinus cavity is without a doubt a very sensitive membrane and I think you are fooling yourself if you don't believe that there is a higher risk than average by flooding it with known toxic chemicals and carcinogens. Sinus cancer is a nasty thing, so all I would caution is for people to make an objective taste test before jumping into it with both feet. For me, I wound up tasting less on the retrohale. Your milage may vary. To all you confirmed retrohalers - puff on!

 

gkr1

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Sep 7, 2017
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How can anyone be smoking anything and not Retrohale!!!

Half of the flavor is in that simple technique, all the stultifies and nuances are not formulated in the mouth!

Plug your nose and eat some food and you will see its the nose that makes everything more flavorful!

 

cigrmaster

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gkr, I don't retrohale on every puff and I can taste my tobacco just fine when I don't. Retrohaling is not for everyone and to say people cannot taste their pipe tobacco without doing it is just not correct. You and I might enjoy smoking like that but I would never say you are not a real pipe smoker if you don't.
In pipes and tobacco there are no absolutes. Everyone enjoys things differently and who are we too judge what others enjoy. I don't like Cobs, but I would never think less of someone who does.

 
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The nose and mouth are physically connected, so even if you're not consciously exhaling a full draw of smoke through your nose, some of it is going through (ie. you're retrohaling to some extent whether you're meaning to or not.)

 

gkr1

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Sep 7, 2017
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gkr, I don't retrohale on every puff and I can taste my tobacco just fine when I don't. Retrohaling is not for everyone and to say people cannot taste their pipe tobacco without doing it is just not correct. You and I might enjoy smoking like that but I would never say you are not a real pipe smoker if you don't.
Point taken and I was not trying to say they are not tasting their tobacco! What I know for myself is that I get much more flavor when I rethrohale, and its backed by science! There have been many studies that claim 70 to 80% of perceived flavor is from sense of smell, our taste buds can not process all the flavors. Even if we do not rethrohale our nerve receptors in nose will pickup taste, such as walking by a BBQ pit. However, the flavors of tobacco and cigars are much more concentrated when retrohaled! And yes, its not for everyone and there is no right or wrong way!

 
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