I pulled a flake out of a jar to smoke in a Nuttens nose warmer and the sugar bloom is a thing of beauty. I think I will leave it sealed for a while. Any guesses on what blend?
Name that flake
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So that isolated area is "sugar bloom"???
I am use to a more extensive "sugar" presentation
Hope it ages well for you
I am use to a more extensive "sugar" presentation
Hope it ages well for you
I don't like to force names... put it in the middle of the floor and just start calling names till you find one that it responds to.
Toob, I disagree. Most likely the white bloom seen in aged tobacco is of a lignocellulose nature with carbohydrates and sugars tagging along after the pressure of making the plug and then cutting is released. There are probably many products of lysed cells migrating to the surface of the cut tobacco flake surface and oils (eugenol, guaicol, phenolics, methulfurfural, fatty acids, etc) may be a part of the bloom but not the majority. The primary oils do not express themselves as a white bloom that I know of. I worked with lignocellulose for Georgia-Pacific and it does express itself in such a manner with pressure treated wood. You can see it any pressure treated product that is not post-acidified (washed). But I may be confusing all of this because it has been a very long time (3 decades) since I worked as a GP chemist well before going back to grad school so that I could become unemployed. :/
Ash got the flake ID correct. It is stonehaven.
Ash got the flake ID correct. It is stonehaven.
And a tasty stonehaven flake it looks to be. I wish I had enough to pass around and if anyone is willing to drive my way, I will surely share.
To a layman, what you have just described sounds like you are saying "extruded crystallized tobacco oils" to me. :
:GLP has suggested that they are minerals. Which to me goes along with what everyone is saying. As long as someone doesn't think this white film is actually sweet sugars...
Can everyone see all of that flying straight over my head? Doc your photo just made me want a cigar instead, and that only happens about once a month. :nana:
Aquadoc, people who have actually analyzed bloom conclude that it is a mixture composed of KNO3, NH4Cl, as major constituents, and some volatile organic compounds.
Not sugar or other carbohydrates.
Not sugar or other carbohydrates.
The bloom is KNO3? And NH4CL? That would be bizarre. The potassium nitrate is reactive so I could see it being added (burning agent) but I doubt it would show up in "clumps" or at least it does not seem likely. I do not doubt the analysis, it is perplexing and contrary to what we see with similarly pressure/heat treated plant material. Now I am going to have to call in some favors to get access to some analytical equipment, GC-MS. I have nothing but time right now.
Cosmic, Thanks for the info. I have no idea how old these flakes are. They were gifted to me. I know that this one has less "bloom" than others in the jar.
Cosmic, Thanks for the info. I have no idea how old these flakes are. They were gifted to me. I know that this one has less "bloom" than others in the jar.
I've also seem plume on ribbon. It just doesn't stand out as much as on a flake or plug. But, I guess that doesn't mean that all ribbon wasn't cut under pressure.
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