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jdb67

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 18, 2020
145
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Albuquerque, NM
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I don't claim to know much, but I do know I have a very sensitive mouth and have had a number of bad experiences on my road to smoking a pipe. This post is just hoping what is working for me perhaps resonates with someone struggling too.

1. Start with a tobacco that basically no-one seems to have issues with. I mean where everyone says you can puff like a freight train and not get bitten. You need a baseline tobacco. For me, it is Carter Hall and Peterson Old Dublin. For a while, avoid experimenting with tobacco and stick with the baseline. Search and ask around...I know people have posted lists of these baselines before.
2. Start with a decent pipe with a good open draw and a smallish bowl. Should give you a bit less than an hour of smoking time.
3. Use matches or hemp wick to light the pipe for quite a while. I am using a pretty thin hemp wick with great success and control. Beneroots Organic 1mm size. Yes...all this has to do with flame temp. I for one think it matters and even if I am wrong, it is just one more thing that is working for me, so I don't see changing.
4. Plan to relight the pipe a lot...don't worry about it. Get rid of the idea you will dump out a bowl full of ash at the end. You will probably dump out some dottle (maybe a lot at first) almost every time and the lower in the bowl you get and keep trying to relight, the more likely you are to scorch your mouth. So until you are having a positive experience smoking, I would not relight much lower than half way for a little while. It is baby steps and learning control. Even now, I am more careful relighting below half way just because I know that it is easier to draw too hard with that flame down there. Stove hot; finger hurt. We learn!
5. I am finding packing method is not as important as becoming one with the tamper. With that said, packing is still important and I find too tight and too loose are both equally bad. I now prefer to start a little too loose and use my tamper to get it drawing just right soon after my main light. I try to maintain that 'just right' draw as I smoke with my tamper. You really can see and feel the impact of tamping. Yes, it is easy to tamp too hard and put out the ember, but it is amazing how a light tamp makes the smoke thicker again and the draw responds by being slightly firmer when you do it.
6. This has helped me a huge amount...stay with me on this. I put a small amount of long-stranded, pretty neutral tobacco in the bottom of the bowl...something that will not easily compress and will stay open for air (I never use small bits of tobacco for this). This will very likely never get burned and becomes my throw-away dottle and air cushion. The importance of this though is that it allows the plug to breath from underneath and makes it easier for me to tamp without over-compressing the bottom. I am using lightly rubbed out Irish Flake right now just to use it up as I won't be smoking it long-term. Keep in mind it will probably never burn anyway and I have noticed no flavor from it ever.

Ok, so now I will walk through it all. I start with this air layer dottle in step 6. This will be springy and have distinct strands that don't want to easily close up. Right now, I then just lightly roll a plug of the main tobacco between 3 fingers and kind of shape it to the size I see the bowl is and just lightly put it in (a little twist, a little pressure...if the plug is too wide you will know as it won't go in easily). I usually pull bits off the top until I can do a light thumb-pad press and get it down below the rim. I test the draw...you need to know the pipe and how it draws empty...I am looking for just a tad firmer draw at this point. I do my charring light with hemp wick...I get it puffing pretty good and usually the top grows quite a bit. I tamp it back to where it was and light it again. I don't tend to draw continuously while lighting...I take quick, sharp puffs and produce lots of smoke at first. Now I just cadence puff and watch the smoke. Sometimes, my initial light is still not doing the trick and I have to tamp and light again, but eventually, it stays going and is producing nice smoke. When the same draw is producing thinner smoke, it usually needs a light tamp and it will stay going by itself. I often over do it and tamp it out and just relight again and try to learn the balance. It is a feedback thing...you can really tell when the smoke, the tamp, the heat of the bowl in your hand...it is all telling you how well that fire is feeding in there. Too loose, drawing too hard will heat up the bowl and the smoke has a character hard for me to describe but not good. Too hard, it will simply not stay lit for long and if I reach this point, I dump it all out and start over as it is hard to fix it once the draw is too hard. I may relight 5+ times on average still. Am I a great smoker?...no way. But I am learning and my brain is starting to connect actions I make to the result in the pipe and smoke and I am confident that over time I will get better and better at controlling my pipe and needing less relights...but for now, I am smoking once a day and my mouth is ok for the first time. I may only have a few tobaccos I can smoke forever due to my sensitive mouth, but that is ok. I can tell you, the smell of Old Dublin in my nose when smoking is intoxicating and if that was all I ever have...I'm a happy pipe smoker still.

Cheers,

jdb67
 
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Guppy

Might Stick Around
Sep 6, 2019
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Texas
My pipe life changed for the better once I tried a clay pipe. They instantly provide feedback if you are smoking too fast, packing too tight, or your tobacco is too moist. Added bonus is learning to tease out subtle flavors. I never really "got" Virginias until I got the hang of the clays. Once you get the cadence down life is good.
 
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jdb67

Starting to Get Obsessed
May 18, 2020
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Best advice I got when I started: S L O W D O W N. if you think you are going slow, slow down even more.

You have some good advice posted, pipe smoking takes practice and patience.
I have no doubt you know what it means to you to slow down...I need help translating that for what I would really change. I am assuming the main thing to attempt to slow down is the puffing cadence and how hard I draw on the pipe. My struggle is that if I wait too long between puffs it seems like I start losing control of the smoke and it gets thin and goes out and then I am sure...incorrectly...I over-compensate to bring it back (trying to keep it from going out) and probably heat things up doing that. Anyway...please elucidate on what it means to go slow in your mind. Thanks, jdb67
 
I have no doubt you know what it means to you to slow down...I need help translating that for what I would really change. I am assuming the main thing to attempt to slow down is the puffing cadence and how hard I draw on the pipe. My struggle is that if I wait too long between puffs it seems like I start losing control of the smoke and it gets thin and goes out and then I am sure...incorrectly...I over-compensate to bring it back (trying to keep it from going out) and probably heat things up doing that. Anyway...please elucidate on what it means to go slow in your mind. Thanks, jdb67

This would be a good "that's what She said" joke. But I digress...... puffy
 
You are absolutely correct in that cadence is hard to pin down.

Also of note: When you say the smoke gets thin if you wait too long between puffs, might I suggest that is the time to use your tamper. Your tamper is your friend and ALL important to achieve a good relaxing pipe. When the smoke starts to get thin, tap (ever so lightly) your top layer (coals) so that it makes contact with the un-smoked layer (un-burnt tobacco)below it. It's magical what happens....
 

The Clay King

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My pipe life changed for the better once I tried a clay pipe. They instantly provide feedback if you are smoking too fast, packing too tight, or your tobacco is too moist. Added bonus is learning to tease out subtle flavors. I never really "got" Virginias until I got the hang of the clays. Once you get the cadence down life is good.
That's right - I've only ever smoked clay pipes!
 
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NomadOrb

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Feb 20, 2020
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A little trick that helped me when I was getting started was to sip half of what I really wanted to sip. So instead of filling my mouth with smoke to make it satisfying, I would only take enough to taste it.

Think of it as whiskey, or a high abv beer. You're not filling your mouth, you're taking a sip to taste. It gets easier.
 

Papamique

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 11, 2020
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A savinelli insert I had once read something along the lines that there should only be a barely visible whisp of smoke while smoking (as opposed to a large billow of smoke) or at least that’s how I interpreted it.

Smoking for 30 years I find it hard to change my cadence but I realized that this was good advice.
 
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Chasing Embers

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I have no doubt you know what it means to you to slow down...I need help translating that for what I would really change. I am assuming the main thing to attempt to slow down is the puffing cadence and how hard I draw on the pipe. My struggle is that if I wait too long between puffs it seems like I start losing control of the smoke and it gets thin and goes out and then I am sure...incorrectly...I over-compensate to bring it back (trying to keep it from going out) and probably heat things up doing that. Anyway...please elucidate on what it means to go slow in your mind. Thanks, jdb67


 
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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The original post is a thoughtful essay with a lot of specific detail and may help some newbies quite a bit. A lot of this probably occurs at the non-verbal level, not because we think about it, but because we don't. Take it all under advisement and then put it in practice, maybe a few points at a time. See what works for you.