Most Bready or Hay-Like Full Virginias?

[ahouston]

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Hey!

I love full virginias -- particularly ones that have a very hay/grass flavor, or those that taste like bread. I am not fond of ones that are citrus/tangy though.

So far, the closest I've gotten to hay is Golden Sliced, and closest to bread was Union Square.

What do you say has the MOST bread and/or hay and LEAST citrus/tang? Ideally in a pure Virginia tin.

Thanks!

 

[lightmybriar]

Capstan Blue is fairly hay-heavy, I think.

 

[BROBS]

most actual hay like I’ve smoked is Cut Virginia Plug by Fribourg and Treyer. Tastes like a fermenting pile of hay in a barn.

and I find Golden Sliced bready.. it’s also not a pure VA

 

[alaskanpiper]

Capstan Blue, FT Cut VA Plug, and Meistermischung No. 88

And not a tin, but Sutliff VA slices. And not a straight VA but Rattray’s Old Gowrie has a lot of hay like notes.

 

[logs]

I wouldn't lump hay and bread into the same category. Sometimes the same smoke will have both, but often not. Personally I'm not a hay fan at all. I'll tolerate it but only if there's a payoff down the line. For pure unadulterated hay, pretty much nothing tops unaged Stokkebye Luxury Bulls Eye Flake. It's like stepping into a barnyard. I pass on it because it's basically hay and nothing else.

For bread I go to Dunhill Ye Old Signe. It starts out extremely mild and tea-like for the first part of the bowl but the second half really takes off and is all bread. Capstan Blue also has some good bread going on in the later part of the bowl.

 

[Sonorisis]

Capstan Yellow and Samuel Gawith Golden Glow. And, on a cheaper and/or more available path of travel: C&D Yorktown.

 

[virginialover]

Samuel Gawith Brown Flake and Full Virginia Flake. Golden Glow has a lot of grass but also some citrus.
Sutliff Virginia Slices 507-C, Capstan Blue, Dan Tobacco Skipper's Flake, aged Peter Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake. If you can find McClelland's Aurora, Boston 1776 and Brindle Flake, those offer a bread/brioche taste.

 

[briarbuck]

Hal o the Wynd would be a good option.

 

[mingc]

The most bready tobacco I've smoked is HU Director's Cut. Granted, it's not straight Virgina, but Kentucky, Perique and Virginia. It was most unusual. I though it tasted like very lightly buttered whole wheat toast. Not sweet, almost bland, but perhaps beguilingly so, because of how unusual that taste profile was. I think the Kentucky evens out all the other tobacco so you don't have the Virgina tang or the Perique spice. YMMV.

 

[pipestud]

I've never smoked hay or grass, so I don't know what either would taste like. Fresh Gawith Full Virginia Flake would come close to what I imagine those two vegetables would taste like. Fresh baked bread smells and tastes so good that if I ever found a tobacco that matched, I'd be all over it.

 

[dcon]

Having grown up on a farm and having "smoked" hay and grass in my youth, I always find the hay and grass analogies perplexing and, sometimes, humorous. Admittedly, I don’t always get the food analogies either. I am a finicky eater and do not have jiminks discernment. To me, tobacco generally tastes like tobacco and there are differences that, I guess, most can relate to by other tastes. If ”citrusy and tangy” references those tastes usually found in bright VA tobacco, I would have specific recs. On the other hand, If it refers to that vinegar taste that some find in red VA I would have different recs. Bread like even brings other questions. I am kind of like pipestud, in that, “if I found one that tasted like fresh baked bread, I would be all over it”.

 

[supdog]

Cornell & Diehl: Red Virginia Cavendish

"Made in house from Cornell & Diehl's Old Belt red Virginias and cut in the Cavendish manner, Red Virginia Cavendish makes for a sweet smoke and boasts flavors similar to baked bread fresh from the oven." I have never tried it, so I can't comment on it.

 

[BROBS]

Capstan Yellow and Samuel Gawith Golden Glow. And, on a cheaper and/or more available path of travel: C&D Yorktown.

No wonder I can’t suggest hay... I don’t like them! ?

 

[BROBS]

I've never smoked hay or grass, so I don't know what either would taste like. Fresh Gawith Full Virginia Flake would come close to what I imagine those two vegetables would taste like. Fresh baked bread smells and tastes so good that if I ever found a tobacco that matched, I'd be all over it.

Charring light of Orlik Golden Sliced is exactly like a loaf from the oven.

we used to have a wonderbread bakery here downtown and it smelled just like it. At parades they would throw out tiny loaves of fresh baked bread about the size of a Twinkie to the kids. They were delicious!

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

I'm with pipestud. I help put up thousands of bails of hay. I remember chewing on some pieces of hay. CVP is my favorite Va, I don't get any hay flavors from it whatsoever. I don't recall getting real hay flavors from any blend I've ever smoked. Why would someone blend a tobacco that tastes like hay? Hay mostly tastes bad. OGS hay and bready? This thread proves just how individual taste really is.

 

[F4RM3R]

A minimally processed red Virginia will give you lots of bread. Wholeleaftobacco's straight up red Virginia is just that. Lots of bread an nothing else, no tang, not really sweet either unless you stove it. this will bring out more fruit flavours and sweetness.

Now you gotta buy a pound of it though and shred it or press it yourself, But it's pretty cheap and quality. It will for sure give you all the bread you could ask for.

Capstan blue is good for the hay flavour.

 

[logs]

Why would someone blend a tobacco that tastes like hay?

That's what I ask myself when smoking Luxury Bullseye Flake... Jesus, what's the point of this flavor? There are plenty of VA blends that have hay notes... although usually not as bad as LBF. If you're not tasting it, lucky you. It's a real downer as far as I'm concerned. Now bread, that's a whole other story. Every VA should taste like bread. Wish it were easier to find.

 

[smudgersmissingleg]

The Virginias that gave me that hay flavour the most are Mac Baren HH Pure Virginia, Samuel Gawith Golden Glow and Kendal Plug.

 

[rushx9]

I'll add to the pile and also say Capstan Blue is very bready. I also get some dark malty bready notes from SG Best Brown. I get bread from OGS, but I also get more than an occasional hint of citrus... mandarin or tangerine, specifically.

 

[ssjones]

I'm aligned with Duane and Pipestud.

Having grown up on a farm and having "smoked" hay and grass in my youth, I always find the hay and grass analogies perplexing and, sometimes, humorous. Admittedly, I don’t always get the food analogies either. I am a finicky eater and do not have jiminks discernment. To me, tobacco generally tastes like tobacco and there are differences that, I guess, most can relate to by other tastes. If ”citrusy and tangy” references those tastes usually found in bright VA tobacco, I would have specific recs. On the other hand, If it refers to that vinegar taste that some find in red VA I would have different recs. Bread like even brings other questions. I am kind of like pipestud, in that, “if I found one that tasted like fresh baked bread, I would be all over it”.