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WhiteCrown

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 29, 2023
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Pac NW, USA
I expect things to be off center with a MM, and I'm delighted when they aren't. I'd throw an extra $2 stem in my next order and use the off center one for camping/fishing/yard work etc, maybe even get a short one and make it a pocket nose warmer.
 
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Egg Shen

Lifer
Nov 26, 2021
1,094
3,653
Pennsylvania
This post is in no way one of complaint. It’s hard to complain about a $6 pipe. I’m just curious what your expectations of qc are with MM, and if you’d accept these pipes, toss them, or ask for replacement?

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Lol they must be out of their damn minds. My stem is a tad I’ll fitting on one of mine and it annoys me. Both of yours would be returned if I had them sent to me. It sucks seeing heritage brands go to pot.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,840
13,982
Humansville Missouri
This post is in no way one of complaint. It’s hard to complain about a $6 pipe. I’m just curious what your expectations of qc are with MM, and if you’d accept these pipes, toss them, or ask for replacement?

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This concerns me if those pipes weren’t scalped from the reject dumpster outside of MM.

I’ve visited MM several times. The workers all know each other and most are family.

For their standard pipes there are five components, the cob, the shank, a metal ring, and the stem, and a filter.


The stems and the rings and filters are purchased from third party vendors. Only the cob and shank are manufactured in the factory.

Each pipe is made using hand labor from cobs that start at the West end and progress station to station to where old women pack them on the East.


Those old women I saw would have skinned their brothers, sons, grandsons, or husbands who would have not chucked the bad stem and badly drilled cob at the station and instead made pipes from them.

Each worker is responsible for their own quality control. Their grandma is on the East end packaging their work.

MM has a reject barrel those old women sometimes (not often) toss a pipe.

You can’t see what’s wrong with it, but they can. Those are sold to visitors to show off quality control. I’ve never seen a half dozen for sale, as seconds.

Did Covid and high wages elsewhere strike Missouri Meerschaum too?
 
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David D. Davidson

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 19, 2023
197
759
Canada
If any of my MMs were off center, you’d need a micrometer to tell (or at least eyes better trained than mine!). I’ve never seen anything remotely close to this, and while I’m not buying them in bulk, I must have purchased a dozen or so over the last half-decade.

I would definitely reach out about it, not just to get a refund, but to let them know there’s something going on with QC if this is what’s being sent out. I don’t expect perfection by any means, but that’s wildly off.
 
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Akoni808

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2022
644
6,650
O’ahu, Hawai’i
This concerns me if those pipes weren’t scalped from the reject dumpster outside of MM.

I’ve visited MM several times. The workers all know each other and most are family.

For their standard pipes there are five components, the cob, the shank, a metal ring, and the stem, and a filter.


The stems and the rings and filters are purchased from third party vendors. Only the cob and shank are manufactured in the factory.

Each pipe is made using hand labor from cobs that start at the West end and progress station to station to where old women pack them on the East.


Those old women I saw would have skinned their brothers, sons, grandsons, or husbands who would have not chucked the bad stem and badly drilled cob at the station and instead made pipes from them.

Each worker is responsible for their own quality control. Their grandma is on the East end packaging their work.

MM has a reject barrel those old women sometimes (not often) toss a pipe.

You can’t see what’s wrong with it, but they can. Those are sold to visitors to show off quality control. I’ve never seen a half dozen for sale, as seconds.

Did Covid and high wages elsewhere strike Missouri Meerschaum too?
I know for certain that these didn’t come from a reject barrel, but the vender did make it right.
 
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Akoni808

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 17, 2022
644
6,650
O’ahu, Hawai’i
If any of my MMs were off center, you’d need a micrometer to tell (or at least eyes better trained than mine!). I’ve never seen anything remotely close to this, and while I’m not buying them in bulk, I must have purchased a dozen or so over the last half-decade.

I would definitely reach out about it, not just to get a refund, but to let them know there’s something going on with QC if this is what’s being sent out. I don’t expect perfection by any means, but that’s wildly off.
I have bought more than a dozen too, and have never had any issues. Besides once with an acrylic MM, that was pretty off.

The vender did make it right though.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,840
13,982
Humansville Missouri
The bottom floor of Missouri Meerschaum is devoted to an incredibly interesting museum, on the North side.

The product is shipped from docks on the South side.

Production is on the second floor, and it’s not an assembly line. There are a series of century or more old machines where the cobs are taken down from the top floors where they’ve aged and there’s a bin where the cobs are sorted and then passed to stations. A worker saws the cob into sections, and then walks up a box full of sawed cobs East to other stations, where they are puttied, shaped, bored and drilled and only at the last stations are the bowls fitted with a wooden stem. Only then do the old women add the ring, filter and stem and hold it up and inspect it, then it’s packaged.

They make a lot of pipes, one at a time.

Maybe the Corona wiped out the grandmas.

I can’t imagine the ones I saw packaging either pipe.

By the way the ones you want are specials and freehands.

There’s a station on the far South West corner where one gray haired craftsman makes all of those, then walks a box up to the old women.

When you watch them make the pipes nobody seems in a hurry. They also seem to enjoy doing it.
 
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bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
9,188
38,585
RTP, NC. USA
They look interesting, but I won't smoke them. I won't contact MM. I'll call up the vender who sold me those pipes and have a talk with them with loud volume. Sure, MM made them, but who sold me the pipe and kept my money and the shipping fee? They better sell me something that looks like a decent pipe even at $6.
 
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suamrai61

Lurker
Jun 25, 2023
14
30
China
Their $40 range products have the same QC. Earlier this year, I received an MM Honeypot with an unlevel shank and a blocked draft hole. After some manual work, I am still satisfied with its smoking quality and appearance. But please imagine a briar pipe produced by Rossi or Morgan bones in the same price range.