Meerschaum Tenon and Mortise System

[msromike]

Thinking about getting my first meer. What are the pros and cons on a screw in system delrin mortise on an Altinok and a press fit delrin mortise like on an IMP or premium SRV?

Are the main differences better draw and the ability to pass a pipe cleaner? I do take apart pipes once in awhile while I am smoking to improve the draw if needed. Is one system better for longevity than the other?

 

[Scottmi]

or... you can avoid those all together and go with an army or spigot.

 

[msromike]

or... you can avoid those all together and go with an army or spigot.

Yeah that's my preferred, but it seemed like they are faux Army's that still use a push fit into a delrin mortise. I do love my Peterson's for that exact reason. Any suggestion on meer brands that have a true Army or spigot stem mount?

Unfortunately none of the photos seem to show the pipes disassembled.

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

Yeah that's my preferred, but it seemed like they are faux Army's that still use a push fit into a delrin mortise. I do love my Peterson's for that exact reason. Any suggestion on meer brands that have a true Army or spigot stem mount?

Unfortunately none of the photos seem to show the pipes disassembled.

@Said.ALTINAY makes some true army mount spigots. Barling has a few as well which I think might also be made be Said and his father.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Are the main differences better draw and the ability to pass a pipe cleaner?

All of the screw in inserts I've encountered will pass a pipe cleaner. The newer replacement inserts have a better draw and are $100 less expensive to repair than permanent fittings.

 

[Scottmi]

Yeah that's my preferred, but it seemed like they are faux Army's that still use a push fit into a delrin mortise. I do love my Peterson's for that exact reason. Any suggestion on meer brands that have a true Army or spigot stem mount?

Unfortunately none of the photos seem to show the pipes disassembled.

see what @rustiepyles said. some altinay and barlings are legit.

 

[Scottmi]

or... buy a pipe you like the look of and don't worry about what method they used to join it.

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

see what @rustiepyles said. some altinay and barlings are legit.

@Said.ALTINAY actually offers extra stems in different colors for his spigots as well.

Billiard Spigot Meerschaum Pipe | ALTINAY

Premium Block Meerschaum Pipes | Billiard Spigot Meerschaum Pipe made of Block Meerschaum by ALTINAY | Each item on this store is unique and the images show the exact item you will receive. A Bowl Height 40.5 mm 1.59 inch B Length 144 mm 5.67 inch C Chamber Diameter 19 mm 0.75 inch D Chamber...

www.altinaypipes.com

https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/barling/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=525973

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

see what @rustiepyles said. some altinay and barlings are legit.

Yeah, I've never had a problem with any of the two piece screw/push tenons on meers. But I do like a nice spigot meer.

 

[msromike]

or... buy a pipe you like the look of and don't worry about what method they used to join it.

Well that is the question now isn't it? Is it something to consider or not? I take it from your response that you are in the camp of it doesn't matter how it's made, they are all the same?

 

[msromike]

@Said.ALTINAY actually offers extra stems in different colors for his spigots as well.

Billiard Spigot Meerschaum Pipe | ALTINAY

Premium Block Meerschaum Pipes | Billiard Spigot Meerschaum Pipe made of Block Meerschaum by ALTINAY | Each item on this store is unique and the images show the exact item you will receive. A Bowl Height 40.5 mm 1.59 inch B Length 144 mm 5.67 inch C Chamber Diameter 19 mm 0.75 inch D Chamber...

www.altinaypipes.com

https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/barling/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=525973

Nice tip! I can see myself smoking this one!

Barling: Ivory 1812 Rusticated Meerschaum Bent Billiard with Silver (with Pocket Case) (9mm) Tobacco Pipe

Ok, another maybe silly question. What are the pros and cons (if any) of having a pipe that takes a 9mm filter and never using a filter?

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

Nice tip! I can see myself smoking this one!

Barling: Ivory 1812 Rusticated Meerschaum Bent Billiard with Silver (with Pocket Case) (9mm) Tobacco Pipe

Ok, another maybe silly question. What are the pros and cons (if any) of having a pipe that takes a 9mm filter and never using a filter?

The only drawback that I've ever found is that it take a little extra swabing with a pipe cleaner to clean out the filter chamber in the tenon. Otherwise, nothing.

 

[msromike]

Thanks all, I feel very prepared now. Time to find one and make a purchase. Hate to be so cautious, but for me these meershsums are serious coin.

 

[didimauw]

Please let us know which one you choose! And yes they are much more expensive these days compared to even last year or so. But they are worth every penny!

 

[didimauw]

Mustafa at Astasmeerschaum is a great guy to deal with too!

AstasMeerschaumPipe - Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/AstasMeerschaumPipe?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1422401582&page=1#items

 

[kcghost]

We wish you well and Happy Smoking!!

 

[LeafErikson]

I have both and can’t say I really prefer one over the other. If you like a super wide open draw get the permanent ones that Altinay uses. If you do go with the screw in push pull stem know that the polyester stems seem to be more trouble than the acrylic ones. The acrylic stems take a different mortise screw in set that’s slightly more open. At least in my experience. If I ever need repairs on my permanent Altinay mortise in the future I’ll be wishing I had the screw in one as I’m sure the permanent ones are somewhat costly to repair. The screw in ones can be had for around $1. If you can find a vintage one with an aluminum tenon those work pretty well. See blurry ass attached picture. They all have their pros and cons.

 

[LeafErikson]

Thanks all, I feel very prepared now. Time to find one and make a purchase. Hate to be so cautious, but for me these meershsums are serious coin.

Hey I don’t blame you brother. Any pipe over $100 is serious for many others as well.

 

[msromike]

Please let us know which one you choose! And yes they are much more expensive these days compared to even last year or so. But they are worth every penny!

I got the Altinay and wanted to post images before my first bowl. It definitely checks all the boxes. Thanks for everyone's help.

 

[Sobrbiker]

Nice pipe!!!