McClelland and Generalissimo Franco Are Still Dead

[brian64]

SNL is still dead too.

 

[woodsroad]

Wait!
What happened to Sutliff?
They didn't sell to General Dynamics, did they?

 

[jpberg]

Wait!
What happened to Sutliff?
They didn't sell to General Dynamics, did they?

No. Raytheon got them.

 

[jguss]

Which Avengers movie was this?

 

[Terry Lennox]

Generalisimo Franco may still be dead, but people will still post an entire new thread just to ask "is this mold?"

Never change, PipesMagazine Forum!

 

[khiddy]

Your feelings about the situation are based on a profound lack of information.

Shopping mall B&M "blends" that are a tossed together in a salad bowl combination of true blends is NOT what McClelland did.

Blend "recipes" are just the fist step of a multi-step process, all of which require extensive knowledge, experience, labor, and machinery to perform.

Not to mention that sourcing the same raw leaf that McC used would literally not be possible.

We all know that, being an agricultural product, leaves change from crop to crop, so our inability to "sourc[e] the same raw leaf" is a red herring of an argument.

The unique processes and blending recipes that they discovered, developed, and employed, though, are something that they could've/should've shared, or at least documented for a future generation to employ. Not doing so is the same as having all of their possessions buried with them to ensure that no one else will ever benefit. And that's why I say it's selfish. (Of course, perhaps they have secretly documented their processes to be released or at least passed on for a future generation, and if so, I will happily eat my words and beg forgiveness for my current comments. But until and unless we know that they did, my opinion stands.)

For the record, if as rumored STG destroys the Sutliff processing equipment to preclude any other company from buying and using it to produce products that they are killing off in the name of short-term shareholder returns, that would be the exact same thing. And it's just as execrable.

 

[georged]

We all know that, being an agricultural product, leaves change from crop to crop, so our inability to "sourc[e] the same raw leaf" is a red herring of an argument.

The unique processes and blending recipes that they discovered, developed, and employed, though, are something that they could've/should've shared, or at least documented for a future generation to employ. Not doing so is the same as having all of their possessions buried with them to ensure that no one else will ever benefit. And that's why I say it's selfish. (Of course, perhaps they have secretly documented their processes to be released or at least passed on for a future generation, and if so, I will happily eat my words and beg forgiveness for my current comments. But until and unless we know that they did, my opinion stands.)

For the record, if as rumored STG destroys the Sutliff processing equipment to preclude any other company from buying and using it to produce products that they are killing off in the name of short-term shareholder returns, that would be the exact same thing. And it's just as execrable.

You THINK you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

For example ---

The equipment that was used by McC and Sutliff was not destroyed to "preclude any other company from buying and using it" but because federal safety regulations have become more strict since it was made, which means anyone who bought it and had an employee injured by it, could SUE them for HAVING SOLD it.

To be legally protected, machinery like that not only can't be sold, but its destruction must be witnessed by someone who is certified, and with a full documentation follow-up.

The tobacco and processes side of things was equally intractable and much more complicated.

How do I know? What is my source? I have known Mike and Mary for decades, and they live within walking distance of me. My mother was a teacher of his in elementary school.

They are two of the finest humans I have ever met in my life, full stop. I could tell you stories of their generosity you literally wouldn't believe. Events I witnessed first hand.

So give it a rest, OK?

Describing their behavior as "selfish" and "excreable" COULD NOT BE farther from the truth.

Again, (and hopefully for the last time): You THINK you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

 

[FurCoat]

That day, Spain stopped being Spain, with the green march, and the regime of 78, we are screwed.

Amen to that.

 

[FurCoat]

I remember when they removed the eagle of St. John from the Spanish flag, it was as if they cut off your balls and you put on a bra.View attachment 356674

My flag still has the eagle. My mother got me one that has the eagle embroidered on satin. Beautiful flag.