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jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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Tobacco IS an investment . Peck is full of it, I guarantee at some point he sells some tobacco or his family will for him, when he dies, cause we all know he couldn’t smoke all of his stash in two lifetimes .
If the price of a good is expected to rise or grow over time, then it is an investment . it’s a growth investment as there are no dividends.
Rubbish. Pipe tobacco is a piss poor substitute for an investment. It's illiquid at scale, it is volatile in that it changes over time being vegetable material (yes, for the better for a number of years, but at some point it's dust), and some think it will become illegal, making realizing a profit much harder. There are other barriers.
I've stated the above number of times, challenging anyone to point to anyone who's made out as an investment. (This excludes short term killings, or low to medium volume high returns unless over a lot of years)

 

alan73

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 26, 2017
667
657
Wisconsin
Jpm: the average net worth of a 50 year old is 50k or so, most people don’t have 1k in the bank, I’m not talking institutional scale investing , I manage 2 bil professionally , there is plenty of liquidity for the little guy to buy and sell or keep and smoke. The long term stock market gives you 7-8% /yr . It is my conclusion that you will do much better in tobacco over the next 10-15 years . Most importantly if you plan on smoking it anyway it all becomes a present value versus future value calculation.
I am of German descent, hoarding and saving is part of my history and life. When my family went through the Weimar Republic and ww2 they lost everything of supposed value, except the gold. When you go thru something like that you are trained to stockpile essentials (ie tobacco) when times are good. It’s the wise thing to do . It sure is better than owning bonds at 3% interest rates, backed by only the promise of the gvmt.
I’ll take my $15k cellar acquired in 2016-2017 against any well known investment index for the next 10 years . The unrealized gains are at least 5k already, thank you McC nuts.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,361
Carmel Valley, CA
Jpm: the average net worth of a 50 year old is 50k or so, most people don’t have 1k in the bank, I’m not talking institutional scale investing , I manage 2 bil professionally , there is plenty of liquidity for the little guy to buy and sell or keep and smoke. The long term stock market gives you 7-8% /yr . It is my conclusion that you will do much better in tobacco over the next 10-15 years . Most importantly if you plan on smoking it anyway it all becomes a present value versus future value calculation.
Nor was I talking multi-millions in inventory! But something that will provide an ongoing return of some scale. More than a few thousand bucks. More than a few years.
Most importantly if you plan on smoking it anyway it all becomes a present value versus future value calculation.
That's important, but takes it out of the "investment" category.
I'm not arguing that it's not wise to buy tobacco now, but prices do fluctuate on most commodities. I'm not betting that a sharp speculator could make real coin though astute buying, holding and selling tobacco, but I have had no one come forward to say he's done it, nor that he knows a guy who has, or even the guy who knows a guy who.....

 

pilotage16

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 12, 2015
147
0
I would say prices are falling, my current auction is ending soon, up to 69.00 for 2 tins. Seems the new price will be 40-50 $ for a tin of 40th.

 

skydog

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 27, 2017
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1,556
Just saw on ebay a tin of St. James Woods from 1999 went for $340 after shipping today :rofl:

 
Jun 27, 2016
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pilotage16

I would say prices are falling, my current auction is ending soon, up to 69.00 for 2 tins. Seems the new price will be 40-50 $ for a tin of 40th.

A lot of action happens with seconds to go, but, private listings usually look shady to people because they can't tell when a brand-new zero-feedback shill account that the seller has ready is bidding them up. Not saying that's what you're doing, but that's what I think, whenever I see a private listing. Also you mis-spelled "Anniversary" in your title. =)

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,206
51,368
Southern Oregon
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People are piling on while the piling on is good. Used to be maybe a dozen or so McClelland listings at a given time and now it's over 400. That tin of Blackwoods Flake is from 1999, so 19 years on it. Would have been maybe $90 before the panic.

 
Jan 28, 2018
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A lot to do about nothing. I'm not sure why anybody cares what somebody does with tobacco they bought with their own money. What, you think people that believed the countless rumors and were prudent enough to stock up should turn around and share the wealth at msrp? You had a few opportunists that immediately tried to turn their money and had surprising success. Now you have more that saw this success and are trying to jump on the bandwagon. It won't take long and the supply of buyers will diminish and this little phenomena will end.

 
Jun 27, 2016
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Some of that stuff has been, and probably always will be, able to continue to pull in the $$$. I doubt that we will ever see any $80 sacks of Townsman Cavendish, but I also didn't think anyone cared about FM Cellar that much, so who knows. =D

 
Dec 24, 2012
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I feel like pikers compared to some of you guys. I only got 8 tins of the 40th. Told myself that the last thing I needed was more tobacco. Guess I should have listened to the devil on my shoulder. I am curious to see what happens to the long term prices on some of the other Mc blends. Here are the Mc blends I have more than 10 tins of (excluding the Butera blends made by mc):
Christmas Cheer - 66 100g tins, vintages from 1992 through 2017
Blackwood Flake - 32 x 100g
Blue Mountain/Balkan Blue - 14 X 50g
Dark Star - 29 x 100g
Red & Black - 11 x 50g
Rich Virginia Ribbon 12 x 50g
St James Woods - 22 X 100g
Tudor Castle - 14 x 50g
Mc Va # 24 - 21 X 100g
Mc Va 27 - 22 X 100g
Most of these I bought in 2012/13 but I now wish I had bought more.

 

admiral

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 15, 2017
272
5
If you are non smoker or occasional such maybe you can call that investment.

Because such cases are one shot deal - 40th will disappear once :)

Say you bought 100 cans at 17$, and now you can sell it for 70$.

That gives you easy 5 grands. Sounds nice, but thats it - game over.

You cant do it again and if you are a smoking brother now you got none to smoke :)

I know what you will say, yesterday it was Syrian, tomorrow it will be Dunhill, next week will be all that is after 2007 release ....

Maybe ... who knows

 

azpipe

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 25, 2015
148
6
I kind of relate this phenomenon of cellaring to an adult version of baseball cards. Some are rare and some arent. But as time has gone on, there has been a big shift towards hoarding as opposed to instant smoking, thereby reducing the rarity of a lot of blends.

 

herrpfeifen

Lurker
Feb 28, 2018
33
0
If I sell a tin for more than I paid (inflation adjusted) then it was absolutely an investment and I am a genius.
If I decide to smoke it instead than II have saved a bunch of what I otherwise would have had to have spent on that blend and I am a genius.
If the blend is still readily available and hasn't seen a price increase then I am smoking a well-aged example and I am a genius.

 

cfreud

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 1, 2014
262
308
AZ PIPE ... Bingo ... I collected baseball cards as a kid in the 80s and saw the boom and bust of cards. This is a mini-stock market, and, certainly, in the wake of McClelland's sad departure, a bubble. Thinking about this from afar, and with a nice little collection of McClelland blends — nothing compared to some of the above lists — I realize I like to smoke pipe tobacco. I enjoy going through my tins and smoking them. If others want to sell, fabulous. But you'll find me on my coach smoking.

 
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