Some Massachusetts Lawmakers Push ‘Generational Tobacco Ban’
The new proposal would make Massachusetts the first state to adopt a ban meant to eliminate the use of tobacco products over time.
Massachusetts Generational Smoking Ban
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I think people should vote with their feet... Voting with their votes doesn't appear to be working.
Don't come down south though. We can't take all the refugees, we have enough.
Don't come down south though. We can't take all the refugees, we have enough.
I find it interesting that there seems to be a worldwide resurgent movement to ban tobacco and nicotine just as new research and discoveries are being made about the scientifically proven health benefits of nicotine. Why would that be ??? 
... pondering with my pipe ...
... pondering with my pipe ...
:::cough cough::: This is Massachusetts. Look at the voting history of the state. You can't say voting doesn't work. If someone is a right wing smoker there, and they don't want to move, then I find it very hard to feel sorry for them.
It's like a right winger in California, complaining about taxes... get the fuck outa there. What the hell would someone be afraid of, cheaper housing costs and less crime, WTF?
It's like a right winger in California, complaining about taxes... get the fuck outa there. What the hell would someone be afraid of, cheaper housing costs and less crime, WTF?
If you vote with your feet, please don't bring your politics with you...
I live in Maryland, which is a batshit crazy, left-leaning state (solely due to the middle portion of the state) so I don't have room to talk about MA, but I'm sick of politicians that are regulating personal freedoms behind the guise of "health." I have a lot more I could say, but I won't because I don't want to venture down the political road and get banned.
However, if "health" was the real reason, we'd be seeing all kinds of other bans, especially technology bans for kids who sit on their ass all day on phones and video games.
However, if "health" was the real reason, we'd be seeing all kinds of other bans, especially technology bans for kids who sit on their ass all day on phones and video games.
Hard to escape in modern times when nearly everything has been politicized.
Yeah, it's been moving westward for at least the past 20 years. There's an interesting dynamic happening between the mayor of Frederick (D) and the County Sheriff (R). There's effectively an impasse in the county and the resolution is TBD.
Speaking only for myself . . . I've got five years left before my pension kicks in so I'm stuck here until then.
The problem is, if this catches on it could eventually come to every state. I believe they've tried it in other countries like New Zealand and England but it didn't pass.
We all know smoking isn't healthy but that's a choice we make, not government.
Imagine if they said that everyone born after 2007 could no longer buy junk food. It's just hypocritical and draconian.
We all know smoking isn't healthy but that's a choice we make, not government.
Imagine if they said that everyone born after 2007 could no longer buy junk food. It's just hypocritical and draconian.
The words that let me know that this isn't really going to happen are "Some lawmakers want..." "They are hoping to persuade their colleagues..." "A handful of lawmakers..." that means maybe 5 people.
This isn't even written up into a bill yet. And, their own party is not in agreeing with it in principle. it is clearly just an article exploring an idea.
It's a little early to let your blood pressure flair up.
This isn't even written up into a bill yet. And, their own party is not in agreeing with it in principle. it is clearly just an article exploring an idea.
It's a little early to let your blood pressure flair up.
I agree. There's a certain amount of political posturing taking place here. They can bandy about the idea and get some social credit for being "tough on tobacco" while not actually doing anything. Many politicians think that tobacco is an easy way to score points but in some instances, being too tough on tobacco could be akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face.
In California, they passed Prop 56 several years ago. Prop 56 signicantly raised taxes on tobacco and the stated goal was to use those dollars to help fund the state's Medicaid (Medi-Cal) program. Unfortunately for lawmakers, the higher taxes on tobacco resulted in lower consumption and guess what? Prop 56 revenues no longer cover enough of the state's Medi-Cal program. They are now digging into the General Fund and increasing taxes on health plans to cover the growing deficit (which means higher health care premiums for everyone).
In California, they passed Prop 56 several years ago. Prop 56 signicantly raised taxes on tobacco and the stated goal was to use those dollars to help fund the state's Medicaid (Medi-Cal) program. Unfortunately for lawmakers, the higher taxes on tobacco resulted in lower consumption and guess what? Prop 56 revenues no longer cover enough of the state's Medi-Cal program. They are now digging into the General Fund and increasing taxes on health plans to cover the growing deficit (which means higher health care premiums for everyone).
I'll just say that they're telling you what they want to do, you should believe them.
Maybe not today... Maybe not tomorrow... But they're telling you what they'll do.
Ah hell, they're just exploring ideas... Haha
It's like if somebody has a map of the bank in a notebook labled "Bank robbery Plans"... They're probably harmless, just exploring ideas.
Maybe not today... Maybe not tomorrow... But they're telling you what they'll do.
Ah hell, they're just exploring ideas... Haha
It's like if somebody has a map of the bank in a notebook labled "Bank robbery Plans"... They're probably harmless, just exploring ideas.
I have a question,
Q-Why ban smoking?
A- Tobacco contains Nicotine
Q-So what?
A- Nicotine is harmful and not healthy
Q- What about smoking Marijuana?
A-Next question...
Q-Why ban smoking?
A- Tobacco contains Nicotine
Q-So what?
A- Nicotine is harmful and not healthy
Q- What about smoking Marijuana?
A-Next question...
To quote the article, "If the bill is approved, young people not old enough to legally purchase nicotine and tobacco would never be lawfully able to purchase them in Massachusetts, thereby creating no more new users."
What a great idea! Maybe we can ban illicit drugs for minors. That way, when they are older, they will not be able to lawfully purchase narcotics...oh wait...never mind.
And while we're at it, let us outlaw ALL dangerous activities, after all we are only protecting people from themselves. Let us simply ban everything bad and then the world will be a better place. [sarc]
What a great idea! Maybe we can ban illicit drugs for minors. That way, when they are older, they will not be able to lawfully purchase narcotics...oh wait...never mind.
And while we're at it, let us outlaw ALL dangerous activities, after all we are only protecting people from themselves. Let us simply ban everything bad and then the world will be a better place. [sarc]