The average price of cigarettes in Oz is AUD$2 - 2.40 per stick
Say you average a pack (20-30) per day - Stopping cigarettes for 1 week will buy you a very nice pipe.
No brainer
Luxury Estates or Excellent New Pipes?
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Say you average a pack (20-30) per day - Stopping cigarettes for 1 week will buy you a very nice pipe.
No brainer
Buy what you want and can afford. This is the way.
I had thought I preferred new pipes until a heavily used estate followed me home from a pipe show. Somehow I like that dilapidated pipe better than my sparkling new one, even with the uneven rim and out of round chamber. So maybe try both and see where you land.
@bersekero I don’t believe this is a question you ask others, because it’s a personal choice, and only time and experience as a pipe smoker will lead you in the direction you want to go.
For me personally, wanting to buy any pipe, at any price, I wasn’t comfortable with my understanding and experience for 4 years, and I’m talking about looking and reading daily about pipes for this long too.
Why this long, because there is a massive world of pipes out there, not just factory brands, but smaller shops with maybe a few employees, or the individual artisan one person carvers.
There are a lot of great inexpensive pipes out there, just stick with nice inexpensive pipes for the next few years, until you know what there is out there, and that will take time.
When you can answer your own questions with complete confidence, you might be ready then.
Are you familiar with Deadmanspipes on eBay? This is a great place to see a good amount of different pipes on a regular basis.
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Blue Room Briars also lists other carvers.
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Have you read?
The Myth of Brand and Maker in Pipesmoking By Dr. Fred Hanna.
An article on Dr. Hanna
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In the meantime, do yourself a favor and buy a nice French made pipe by Sebastien Beaud of Genod. Inexpensive, simple and quality…
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Here’s Genod’s website in France.
www.maitrepipier.fr
Here’s an article on Sebastian of Genod.
Sebastien Beaud: Genod Pipes and the Tradition of Saint-Claude
For me personally, wanting to buy any pipe, at any price, I wasn’t comfortable with my understanding and experience for 4 years, and I’m talking about looking and reading daily about pipes for this long too.
Why this long, because there is a massive world of pipes out there, not just factory brands, but smaller shops with maybe a few employees, or the individual artisan one person carvers.
There are a lot of great inexpensive pipes out there, just stick with nice inexpensive pipes for the next few years, until you know what there is out there, and that will take time.
When you can answer your own questions with complete confidence, you might be ready then.
Are you familiar with Deadmanspipes on eBay? This is a great place to see a good amount of different pipes on a regular basis.
Deadmanspipes eBay
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Blue Room Briars also lists other carvers.
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Have you read?
The Myth of Brand and Maker in Pipesmoking By Dr. Fred Hanna.
An article on Dr. Hanna
Meet Fred Hanna, Doctor of Pipes | Smokingpipes.com
Read our interview with Fred Hanna, Doctor of Pipes and author of Pipe focused books such as <em>The Perfect Smoke</em>.
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In the meantime, do yourself a favor and buy a nice French made pipe by Sebastien Beaud of Genod. Inexpensive, simple and quality…
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Smokingpipes is your one stop shop for Genod Tobacco Pipes and all your tobacco smoking needs. From new and estate tobacco pipes to tin pipe tobacco and bulk pipe tobacco, we have everything you need
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Here’s Genod’s website in France.
Genod Viou : Maître Pipier - maitrepipier.fr
GENOD VIOU Maître pipier, fabricant de pipes de bruyère à Saint Claude, France. Fabrication et réparation des pipes; visite de l'atelier.
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Here’s an article on Sebastian of Genod.
Sebastien Beaud: Genod Pipes and the Tradition of Saint-Claude
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Of all the artisan briar and meerschaum pipes I own, I often find myself reaching for a Falcon.
I solved this problem by getting both, new and estates. I have had overall pretty happy results with both. I have bought quite a few of my estate pipes through The Danish Pipe Shop and have been very pleased with them. The pipes always come fully restored and ready to smoke, so factor that in when comparing their prices to something like Ebay. They have a good selection of vintage English estates, as well as Dunhill estates as well as an excellent selection of new Dunhills. I have been extremely happy with my Dunhill's, both new and estate, they are simply fanstastic smoking pipes and well worth it, if you can afford what they are asking. Unfortunately for myself, seeing the new 2024 prices, I think I am now probably priced out of Dunhill's, unless I manage to find some great estate deal.
But if you like British pipes, I have to mention Ian Walker of Northern Briars. I have only one so far, a Rox cut (sandblast) Canadian and I am extremely pleased with it so far. For about 1/4 to 1/3 of the price of a Dunhill equivalent, you get a brand new handmade pipe with a hand cut stem. It smokes like a dream, from the first bowl it has smoked as well as one of my well broken in top quality English pipes. Like I said, I am very, very happy and I think I will be directing any future pipe purchases his way. As much as I love my Dunhill's old and new, as far as Im concerned, they can sell them all to the wealthy Asian collectors at these prices. My next pipe will be a Northern Briars.
But if you like British pipes, I have to mention Ian Walker of Northern Briars. I have only one so far, a Rox cut (sandblast) Canadian and I am extremely pleased with it so far. For about 1/4 to 1/3 of the price of a Dunhill equivalent, you get a brand new handmade pipe with a hand cut stem. It smokes like a dream, from the first bowl it has smoked as well as one of my well broken in top quality English pipes. Like I said, I am very, very happy and I think I will be directing any future pipe purchases his way. As much as I love my Dunhill's old and new, as far as Im concerned, they can sell them all to the wealthy Asian collectors at these prices. My next pipe will be a Northern Briars.
You are right. If I completely quit smoking cigarettes I can buy a new radice every two months. It's all about numbers.The average price of cigarettes in Oz is AUD$2 - 2.40 per stick
Say you average a pack (20-30) per day - Stopping cigarettes for 1 week will buy you a very nice pipe.
No brainer
I have a Falcon stem and a couple of bowls. Every time I see a photo of one of these tall bowls I think, "I gotta get one of those." Then, alas, I procrastinate and don't.
That is a really pretty grain.
I have a good idea of what I want but sure thing is I know exactly what I don't want. That makes decisions easier. Still even a detail is enough to make me go away. I know that I will see it all the time. The problem is that perfect things usually come with a price. However all my dunhills cost 140-180 euro except one at 225. It took me almost a year to find those five. All in excellent condition.
Now I found a perfect for me caminetto which ticks all the boxes if I broaden my price limit. I broused all caminettos at every shop and found three that are for me. Price is a major decision factor. If money was not a problem I would have found many.
I do not rush things, I just"need' more pipes.
Now I found a perfect for me caminetto which ticks all the boxes if I broaden my price limit. I broused all caminettos at every shop and found three that are for me. Price is a major decision factor. If money was not a problem I would have found many.
I do not rush things, I just"need' more pipes.
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Lucky you - knowing what you want means you can focus on getting exactly that one piece.
The opposite is my approach to buying pipes or at a smorgasbord - ending up with a little of everything and an overflowing plate
Buy whatever you like.
I buy top quality vintage Britwood and top quality contemporary American artisan carvers. The biggest single holding are Family Era Barling pipes, some Sasienis, some Comoys, some Ben Wades, etc on the Britwoord side.
On the American artisan side I collect Scottie Piersel, Lee Von Erck, Paul Tatum, Tony Fillenwarth, and Trever Talbert. My preference with American artisans is that they display a strong individual style that appeals to me. Warmed over Danish doesn't cut it. It goes unsaid that the pipes have to be great smokers.
Since the majority of British pipes I like haven't been in production for 60+ years, I look for estates in great condition. The American artisan pipes are a mixture of barely smoked estates, new, and commissioned.
Whatever you decide to do, have fun with it and enjoy the results!
Jesse is right. Part of the fun is finding a great buy as an estate or at a flea market and then also planning for a particular new one that you'd love to have. Pull off all of the blinders and enjoy the ride.............
I started off collecting old Britwoods.
My next largest lot of pipes is Danish - one could say the opposite of restrained Brit classicism - albeit in a more restrained style.
The same, but with a difference
Yeah, but being Down Under, you chaps start off doing things counter clockwise below the equator.
Where as the chaps above the equator start off doing things clock wise.
Estates! It might be the historian in me but finding vintage and antique gems and setting them back to purpose is the most rewarding part of the hobby for me. I think that we all know how many rare and wonderful pipes are tossed in the trash by people who don’t know any better. When we take on an estate pipe we are preserving history and more importantly preserving these remarkable examples of functional art!
Yes it is great fun to look for a new pipe, especially the ones that are part of pipe history. The problem is that the pipes I like from the first sight are usually expensive. Is is very easy to lose control and spend too much on a hobby. If a pipe is way too expensive it is easy to pass. But when the limit set is say 200 and this perfect pipe costs 300 then I start thinking. Is it better to buy this and not a couple of 150 each? Or should I buy that and forget about new purchases for six months etc. many questions pop up . It's surely fun looking for a new pipe but sometimes it is disappointing also.
As for estates of course I don't mind restored as somebody did a good job and spent lot of time fixing problems, usually burnt chambers and rims.
But my last purchase was problematic to say the least. A gorgeous 1/2 bent billard. Dunhill, apparently.
The pipe was smoking way too hot to the point I couldn't touch the bowl.
Lack of experience causes mistakes. I decided to detect what the problem is. I dried my tobacco more, dried lees, packed differently, slowed down the cadence, sipped less, put different tobacco, nothing helped. Untill I realized that the walls of the chamber were significantly thinner compared to my other billiards of the same brand and group size. I even broused all the same pipes new or estates to check the diameters. The conclusion was that the chamber diameter of the newly purchased pipe was 3 mm more than the standard for group 3 in which case it looks like. I bought an overreamed pipe.
Needles to say I sent it back.
That was quite disappointing. A new pipe would never have this problem. For triple the price of course.
But my last purchase was problematic to say the least. A gorgeous 1/2 bent billard. Dunhill, apparently.
The pipe was smoking way too hot to the point I couldn't touch the bowl.
Lack of experience causes mistakes. I decided to detect what the problem is. I dried my tobacco more, dried lees, packed differently, slowed down the cadence, sipped less, put different tobacco, nothing helped. Untill I realized that the walls of the chamber were significantly thinner compared to my other billiards of the same brand and group size. I even broused all the same pipes new or estates to check the diameters. The conclusion was that the chamber diameter of the newly purchased pipe was 3 mm more than the standard for group 3 in which case it looks like. I bought an overreamed pipe.
Needles to say I sent it back.
That was quite disappointing. A new pipe would never have this problem. For triple the price of course.
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Dunhill group sizes are vague and don't always indicate chamber size. It may have needed some carbon build up. This fellow, thankfully not a Dunhill, has the thinnest walls of any pipe I own and only gets warm to the touch.
