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I thought that the distinguishing characeristics were quite clear:
Canadian vs Lumberman - Same billiard bowl, same elongated oval shank:
short fish tail bit = Canadian
short saddle bit = Lumberman
Liverpool vs Lovat - Same billiard bowl, same elongated round shank:
short fish tail bit = Liverpool
short saddle bit = Lovat
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DW,
I should have been more clear when I said there is also much confusion about what makes a Canadian a Lumberman. I meant confusion among the general pipe smoker who is not necessarily interested in those shapes, and not in the given guidelines for each shape.
The guidelines are clearly defined among this group, I think. However I make the distinction that a Canadian must have a round shank and an oval shank is not acceptable, and that shank must be equal to or longer than the height of the bowl, with a short tapered bit. To be a Lumberman the length of the oval shank must be at least 1.5 times the height of the bowl with a saddle bit whose length is less than the length of the oval shank. The guideline differences in length & shape of shank are just as important as the different type of bits.
The saddle bit billiard would then have the straight wall shape of a billiard bowl, a shank approximately equal in length to the height of the bowl, and a longer saddle bit usually equal to but often even longer than the shank. The shape of the shank is undefined & therefore may be round, square or oval.
I thought that the distinguishing characeristics were quite clear:
Canadian vs Lumberman - Same billiard bowl, same elongated oval shank:
short fish tail bit = Canadian
short saddle bit = Lumberman
Liverpool vs Lovat - Same billiard bowl, same elongated round shank:
short fish tail bit = Liverpool
short saddle bit = Lovat
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DW,
I should have been more clear when I said there is also much confusion about what makes a Canadian a Lumberman. I meant confusion among the general pipe smoker who is not necessarily interested in those shapes, and not in the given guidelines for each shape.
The guidelines are clearly defined among this group, I think. However I make the distinction that a Canadian must have a round shank and an oval shank is not acceptable, and that shank must be equal to or longer than the height of the bowl, with a short tapered bit. To be a Lumberman the length of the oval shank must be at least 1.5 times the height of the bowl with a saddle bit whose length is less than the length of the oval shank. The guideline differences in length & shape of shank are just as important as the different type of bits.
The saddle bit billiard would then have the straight wall shape of a billiard bowl, a shank approximately equal in length to the height of the bowl, and a longer saddle bit usually equal to but often even longer than the shank. The shape of the shank is undefined & therefore may be round, square or oval.