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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
5,491
28,121
Florida - Space Coast
Several years ago a close friend of mine won 1 million (pre-tax). Being a frugal type he was able to retire several years early.

Apparently a million isn’t enough to ruin a person.
My ex wife (may she rott) had a friend, that i also disliked lol, that bought her parents scratch cards for Xmas, one of the cards was $100,000 winner. Her parents cleared let’s call it 50% after taxes, bought the other daughter a car and blew the rest on one of those months long world cruises, everything first class. Didn’t give the daughter i hated a dime so…. The perfect outcome as far as i was concerned ?
 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,826
8,646
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
My ex wife (may she rott) had a friend, that i also disliked lol, that bought her parents scratch cards for Xmas, one of the cards was $100,000 winner. Her parents cleared let’s call it 50% after taxes, bought the other daughter a car and blew the rest on one of those months long world cruises, everything first class. Didn’t give the daughter i hated a dime so…. The perfect outcome as far as i was concerned ?
You have to pay tax on lottery wins?

Blimey.....pretty sure you don't here.

Regards,

Jay.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,865
31,624
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
It has been widely reported here that the latest EuroMillions Lottery winner was a Brit who has scooped an eye popping £195,707,000! By all accounts that is the biggest ever win for a lottery player in the UK.

Now I have never bought a lottery ticket in my life….and I don’t intend to for a variety of reasons, one being that if I spent £1 per week on a lottery ticket, after a year I’d be kicking myself for being £52 short with nothing to show for it :eek:.

But seriously, of all the major lottery winners (over here at least), most have had a pretty poor time of it once the initial excitement is over. The divorce rate is considerably higher amongst winners which kind of proves that money doesn’t buy happiness.

To have untold millions of pounds suddenly thrust upon you what are you to do with it? Most will give monies to their nearest and dearest so they are 'comfortable', the more socially aware will make donations to causes close to their hearts but even then, they’re still left with amounts of money most folk can only dream of.

It’s a sad fact that there are so many stories in the newspapers of lottery winners that rue the day they had that call telling them they were richer than their wildest dreams could have made them.

If I were to make the decisions, wins would be pegged at £1m, then the latest win would have given 195 people a perfectly reasonable amount for their future but what do I know?

So, what are the thoughts of Forum members on lottery wins & winners, do you know any, were you a winner yourself?

Regards,

Jay.
for a long time it was thought giving people a ton of money out of no where was the problem. Now it's more considered that most people who playing the lottery enough to win just aren't good with money and numbers and are kind of screwed over by their own mind and inability to understand their situation.
And from watching people who tend to play a lot, they're often desperate people who are of the type where it doesn't matter what life throws at them they'll screw it up.
 
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,639
I'd find playing for many rounds without winning exceedingly boring. However, if I played a few times and won, I realize this does not make you an instant rich retiree. Rather, it makes you a money manger, or a manager of money managers, which means you have to be able to size up the available expertise and fend off grifters and swindlers on a regular basis, which doesn't always make you an available friend or even family member. This isn't just sour grapes.

Every rich kid is a money manager in training, so they have years of training and acculturation, and many of them are none too pleasant in the personality department. Check the business pages.

So, is it wonderful luck to win? I think that's true. But does it make for a wonderful life? The records shows, not too often.

I'd rather eat a nice chocolate sundae than spend the cost of one on a one in 400K chance of making a heap of money. The sundae, I can eat and enjoy. The long odds I can't eat and am unlikely to enjoy.
 
1. In probability theory there is a concept call Expectation. In general terms it literally means how much you expect to win. Expectation in a lottery is much less than what you spend in tickets, and you are better off saving / investing the money which you spend on tickets.
2. I suspect that expectation from lottery is much less than gambling
3. in my opinion lottery is predatory- Capitalizing on greed of folks who does not have a sound basis of mathematics
4. Gambling also has the same problems but at least the expectations are higher and there is some (although doubtful) entertainment value
5. Human beings are terrible in planning for the future- Scientific studies has shown
6. If you earn your money through hard work - You generally spend it better compared to a windfall

Having said that - the amount OP suggested if managed properly can theoretically last for infinite generations, or as long as the social constructs are similar would last for 200-300 years. The annual return even if invested poorly would be beating inflation, and a extremely large pool for both capital and operational expenses and will continue to grow
 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,352
Carmel Valley, CA
I think I'd be up to the task of handling $100,000,000. Would use professionals to advise on tax minimization as well as investments. Would set up several trusts. Probably blow $5-10 Million on me. Ain't gonna happen, as I buy a ticket once very few years when the jackpot is huge.

Penzance for everyone!
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,358
18,579
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
I never play state lotteries. My gambling is done, very conservatively in the markets. I don't like losing hard earned monies and even less I refuse to give various governments more moneys than required by law. I will by a rare raffle (tax deduction) from non-profits I desire to support.

I won the lottery many years ago when I was adopted by a loving, caring family.