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Nothing like a bunch of dumpy dudes rating the women of the world on a pipe forum!
That's a "bunch of dumpy dudes who like to suck and blow pipes with their mouths " rating the women of the world.


Somehow, I don't think there is a way to make this sound any better.
 
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I would ask what the local Korean version of something similar costs. That's where I'd start.
Good point AnotherBob,
Actually, the local hooch is real moonshine stuff. Its called soju, which way back when, used to be around 20% Alc/Vol, and made from fermented rice. That's all changed now, its about 10-12% Alc/vol and is a chemically made drink. I understand that the government wasn't happy with making liquor from food stuff, which was grown for eating, hence the change to chemical manufacture. It's God Damn awful shit! The locals mix it with beer (mec-choo) and call it so-mec. I got drunk on it one night about 3 years ago and haven't touched it since. Its also very cheap, like 1-5 dollars/bottle (+/- pint). There isn't a Korean whiskey I know of.
There's also a "wine" called bokbunja, which is made from Korean raspberrys. Its pretty good stuff, if a little sweet. But it ain't no whiskey.
Was in the mom & pop's store this evening, Buffalo Trace was +/- USD50 and Wild Turkey 101 was is +/-USD60.
 

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Good point AnotherBob,
Actually, the local hooch is real moonshine stuff. Its called soju, which way back when, used to be around 20% Alc/Vol, and made from fermented rice. That's all changed now, its about 10-12% Alc/vol and is a chemically made drink. I understand that the government wasn't happy with making liquor from food stuff, which was grown for eating, hence the change to chemical manufacture. It's God Damn awful shit! The locals mix it with beer (mec-choo) and call it so-mec. I got drunk on it one night about 3 years ago and haven't touched it since. Its also very cheap, like 1-5 dollars/bottle (+/- pint). There isn't a Korean whiskey I know of.
There's also a "wine" called bokbunja, which is made from Korean raspberrys. Its pretty good stuff, if a little sweet. But it ain't no whiskey.
Was in the mom & pop's store this evening, Buffalo Trace was +/- USD50 and Wild Turkey 101 was is +/-USD60.
looked up the Soju thing. So in the 60's they banned making it with rice because of severe food sortages. Then lifted the ban in 99 and now most of it's made the same way I assume md20/20 is made. Flavorings added to neutral alcohol. So there is good Soju out there but more of it is made the cheap way. I bet it's about five years or less away from traditional stuff becoming more of a thing and popping up all over the place. But that's just a hunch.
 
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looked up the Soju thing. So in the 60's they banned making it with rice because of severe food sortages. Then lifted the ban in 99 and now most of it's made the same way I assume md20/20 is made. Flavorings added to neutral alcohol. So there is good Soju out there but more of it is made the cheap way. I bet it's about five years or less away from traditional stuff becoming more of a thing and popping up all over the place. But that's just a hunch.

Korea soju = worse hangover ever, Japanese soju = acceptable hangover.
 
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looked up the Soju thing. So in the 60's they banned making it with rice because of severe food sortages. Then lifted the ban in 99 and now most of it's made the same way I assume md20/20 is made. Flavorings added to neutral alcohol. So there is good Soju out there but more of it is made the cheap way. I bet it's about five years or less away from traditional stuff becoming more of a thing and popping up all over the place. But that's just a hunch.
Yeah, that's about the size of it Bob.
What most folk buy is the stuff from 7-11's and sit & drink it there and then with a beer, dirt cheap stuff.
I guess there's the real expensive stuff, but I knowingly haven't seen it, since I'm not in the market for it.

When I was working in Shanghai, we were invited out on a monthly basis by the ship-yard managers to a banquet. Sounds great, but really, it wasn't. Anyway, the usual thing was for a bottle of baijiu or three to appear. The bottles that this liquor came in were outstanding, they were more like an elaborate decanter, they really were very ornate. Anyways, I was told that this stuff we were being offered to us cost USD1000 a bottle. That aside, it didn't detract from the fact that it tasted terrible. It was akin to drinking raw alcohol. The following day, one could still taste it, it was in one's pores, nasty stuff.
I got to thinking, OK, maybe there's something in this, the worst it tastes, the bigger the man I am for drinking it. Well fill yer boots, guys! I'll stick to my bourbon.
 
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Can you get Kavalan there? It's from Taiwan so maybe it's cheaper than US product? Also, it's fantastic stuff.
Not that I've seen, Shanez.
I doubt that it would be cheaper than a US product, of similar quality/strength.
There's a guy in town who has a decent, if not limited supply of what we like. He can get Woodfords Reserve for us, I dare say if I showed him he might be able to source a bottle.
I have this hunch that he deals with an out-an-out liquor store in Ulsan, which is 2-2 1/2 hours drive away for us, so if he can get what we need, saves me a trip, and doesn't cost anymore than the liquor store.
 
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Not a liquor, but do you drink much Makgeolli? Their are actually a couple craft brewers here now making it in a more traditional way, so much better than the swill sold in plastic bottles tho, I liked drinking that stuff too.
Ah yes, makgeolli. I haven't had it in a while, but yes I like it too. It's quite refreshing I find. Not too alcoholic so you get smashed straight away.
I understand that its brewed on some farms/homesteads.
 
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When it comes to prices on spirits, Finland & Sweden will beat all the remaining countries in the whole word, for instance a big bottle of Johnny Walker Red Label will set you back for $ 30, Jim Beam and other regular Bourbons are about $ 30-35 quarter liter (750ml) but prices for tobacco are even more insane, pouch of Regular Amphora is likewise $ 30,
 
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