Thanks for the advice. Also, I believe that I have purchased one with the insert already attached.
Wow... that's amazing as I find just the opposite. Had an Old Boy and soon found out that so much as a fart from a bird sitting in a tree would quickly put it out! My regular lighter is a Corona Pipemaster which I like a hell of a lot more albeit if it's a tad too windy it will also go out, but in my opinion it's much better and easier to use than an Old Boy. Actually, most any butane lighter is useless in the wind (and if it gets cold) unless your using one of haja's famous cheep Chinese torches. :wink:I only smoke outside as well. My Old Boy works just fine on the back patio. It would take a pretty good breeze to cause any problems.