I believe so. The farmer that I spoke with sold most of his crop to Swedish Match, and the rest through a broker. All of his crop was sold by November. I bought 5 pounds of whole leaf Dark Fired from him, and it's really nice stuff. In doing the research to find him, I also came across Burley and Virginia growers more than happy to sell me leaf by the pallet load. Of course, I know very little about grading leaf, so it would be a crap shoot.
Legislation and the Future of Tobacco
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I believe so. The farmer that I spoke with sold most of his crop to Swedish Match, and the rest through a broker. All of his crop was sold by November. I bought 5 pounds of whole leaf Dark Fired from him, and it's really nice stuff. In doing the research to find him, I also came across Burley and Virginia growers more than happy to sell me leaf by the pallet load. Of course, I know very little about grading leaf, so it would be a crap shoot.
Pure smoke rings ... in the next five years we'll lose a lot of variety with recent blends and new blends ... in the next ten years, that will taper off interest in tobacco smoking so younger more active creative people won't pick it up ... in the next fifteen years these changes will taper off the availability and distribution of remaining blends ... and after twenty years pipe smokers will be a really small distinct group of hobbyists with legacy blends and just a few pipe makers.
However, many things could slow this downward trend from legislation to a strong surge of interest from people who are about five years old right now, for their own reasons. What you suppose will happen seldom does.
However, many things could slow this downward trend from legislation to a strong surge of interest from people who are about five years old right now, for their own reasons. What you suppose will happen seldom does.
[However, many things could slow this downward trend from legislation to a strong surge of interest from people who are about five years old right now, for their own reasons. What you suppose will happen seldom does.]
If it resisted at least 10.000 years I think it might change but quality tobacco smoking won't disappear.
I make an analogy with fountain pens (of which I am a collector), they virtually disappeared in the fifties-sixties but in the last 25 years they reemerged. Yes, you don't see them anymore in practical life (as you don't see pipe smoking outside for the most part) but there is a renaissance of fountain pens, as a matter of fact you have now the best, most expensive and most variety of pens/inks/paper ever made. The number of users is much smaller than in the past when they were a commodity, now they are just for the conosseurs. Something similar could happen to pipe tobacco, there are many things related to it, meditation, relaxation which I don't see it disappearing. Possibly it will be different from now, maybe will be limited to high quality expensive blends, but I think it will stay for a long time even if maybe in a different form from now.
If it resisted at least 10.000 years I think it might change but quality tobacco smoking won't disappear.
I make an analogy with fountain pens (of which I am a collector), they virtually disappeared in the fifties-sixties but in the last 25 years they reemerged. Yes, you don't see them anymore in practical life (as you don't see pipe smoking outside for the most part) but there is a renaissance of fountain pens, as a matter of fact you have now the best, most expensive and most variety of pens/inks/paper ever made. The number of users is much smaller than in the past when they were a commodity, now they are just for the conosseurs. Something similar could happen to pipe tobacco, there are many things related to it, meditation, relaxation which I don't see it disappearing. Possibly it will be different from now, maybe will be limited to high quality expensive blends, but I think it will stay for a long time even if maybe in a different form from now.
Actually, it seems to me that's exactly what has been happening with pipe tobacco for quite a while now.
It could happen again at some point after the current disaster has run its course, but people will probably have to do the entire process themselves from seed to pipe.
EDIT: In fact, I hope some are preserving non-gmo tobacco seeds to pass on to the future.
I have read The Republic, but to understand our government one needs to go much deeper, and think more broadly. One of the vestiges from our past freedoms is open government and freedom of information. We are also greatly assisted by the internet and government digital archives. While our current government outsources to private companies to avoid FOIA disclosures, we can still find out most of the laws and bureaucracy that we are subject to. By studying the people in office (their friends, where they live/vacation, where they give speeches/what they say, what they do) we can piece together networks of power and manipulation. If it is legal for private companies(fusion centers) to spy on everyone, then we should be able to spy on them. What do the employees of PhillipMorris think and do? What favors do the GMO tobacco companies do for government candidates? Are they related as family or friend? If one wants to understand what the future will be like, they need to understand how laws are created and why. Many laws created to benefit corrupt politicians and their business interests are going to be Crimes Mala Prohibita, crimes that really have no victims. Do wee need more prohibitions and taxes to finance shady underhanded politicians and their business monopolies? No!
The only difference in what tobacco anyone uses is a moot point. Pipes, cigars, cigarrettes, chew, etc., are all a black eye to the modern world. They want it wiped out, and gradually it's going to happen. More and more companies in KY alone are testing for nicotine when doing employment physicals, not just the medical professions. Fewer places are carrying tobacco products. Pipe smoking isn't much healthier than any other tobacco use really, and all tobacco users are quickly becoming an endangered species. Cellar, cellar, cellar.
The fountain pen analogy is faulty. Pens fell out of favor due to technological innovation, not because of societal disfavor and government regulation. Tobacco use isn't healthy, and a combination of pressure from the costs of treating it's associated health maladies, and societal/political disfavor will eventually, for the most part, eliminate it. This isn't a fad issue, it's trend, based in concrete evidence, with a well defined trajectory. One can argue about which form of tobacco is less unhealthy, but the people who make the rules aren't going to participate in that debate.
I have to disagree with this statement. Tobacco use, like many things in life is a trade off between one thing and another. In the case of moderate tobacco use you have the trade off of a 40% reduction in Alzheimer's and a 75% reduction in Parkinson's Disease vs a possible increase in cancer. I choose to go the neurological disease reduction route and take my chances with the cancer route.
Give me a few days to post some info. Believe it or not I enjoy reading medical journals for information on extending human maximum lifespan. With my interests in tobacco I've also read plenty of studies with tobacco. Most are obviously constructed to "prove" tobacco is bad for you. It makes it tough trying to read through a study/test and pick out all the bs. Case in point: a Few years ago I was listening to the radio and heard this " Another study proves smoking causes Alzheimer's Disease". I thought that was rather odd because the preponderance of studies have shown a beneficial effect for moderate smoking. So I looked up the study(it was in a mainstream medical journal) and found that the researchers followed a group of cigarette smokers that smoked 2 packs a day of cigarettes. So.. there was either some stupid researchers or researchers that are being funded by the anti tobacco crowd. This is no different if I did a study and proved that red wine causes premature organ failure. Most people would agree that 2 glasses of red wine per day is healthy... but if I designed a test where I had people drinking 6 bottles of wine a day then yes, I could say that red wine is dangerous to consume. It's all about the dose.
Part of the issue is the dose and another part is the delivery system. There was a British study either early last year or the year before, that indicated that nicotine delivered through vaping was far less lethal because the combustion byproducts that are chiefly linked to cancer are not present.
We all should throw out our pipes and tobaccos and start vaping. Anyone for banana peach mango?
We all should throw out our pipes and tobaccos and start vaping. Anyone for banana peach mango?
Jitterbug, I'd appreciate that. I agree with most of what you are saying. My wife is a health/medical writer (and my father was a research pharmacologist) so I'm well aware of the bias inherent in a system where he who pays the piper calls the tune.
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