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jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
3,360
8,288
Absolutely none of what we talk about on here really makes a difference . . . why try to make everyone feel about because they are talking about a niche topic on a forum specifically created for that topic?
That’s what I do.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
17,110
32,122
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Don't get me wrong, I love Cornell & Diehl, but I've yet to smoke any blend from them that I'd call "mellow". Even smoking their flagship aromatic Autumn Evening (which is 100% pure Red Virginia Cavendish) feels like Jeremy Reeves personally walked up, punched me in the throat, and called me a pussy by the time I get down to the last third of the bowl!

C'mon guys, Cavendish is supposed to be really gentle and easygoing stuff! What did they steam it with, rocket fuel? I'll always love C&D's Burley blends, and Haunted Bookshop may very well be my all time favorite pipe blend period, but I feel like they might want to leave the mass market brick and mortar bulk aromatics to Lane. They're gonna give some poor old codger who's used to smoking 1-Q a heart attack! 😅
I guess I just don't get that effect from any pipe tobacco or at least not in a long as time.
 

Stah

Lurker
Dec 12, 2022
48
236
www.tobaccoreviews.com
Great explanation.

I use (used?) 515 RC-1 and TS1R for my home blends. As much as I like 515 RC-1, I still thinking that TS1R is overestimated. It's more harsh and requires much more attention (ages well, though).

Talking about C&D blending components and bulk: I'm feeling desperation about the VA blending components they offer. Looks like they use the best for themselves. Any try of their red (and I like the red so much) was like I have something wrong on my tongue - either less sugar or some dusty feeling or much woody than I like. And every time it was different. I'd like to have blending VA they use in CRF/CRFP. I have around 70 tins of each on my shelves (in real, yes! - 70 CRF, 67 CRFP, different batches) - and won't stop to buy it. But! I'd like to use the same red for blending - well, just a pound please!
 
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SBC

Lifer
Oct 6, 2021
1,667
7,863
Yoopsconsin
Great explanation.

I use (used?) 515 RC-1 and TS1R for my home blends. As much as I like 515 RC-1, I still thinking that TS1R is overestimated. It's more harsh and requires much more attention (ages well, though).

Talking about C&D blending components and bulk: I'm feeling desperation about the VA blending components they offer. Looks like they use the best for themselves. Any try of their red (and I like the red so much) was like I have something wrong on my tongue - either less sugar or some dusty feeling or much woody than I like. And every time it was different. I'd like to have blending VA they use in CRF/CRFP. I have around 70 tins of each on my shelves (in real, yes! - 70 CRF, 67 CRFP, different batches) - and won't stop to buy it. But! I'd like to use the same red for blending - well, just a pound please!

At the rate I smoke (maybe 3 bowls a week, occasionally skipping), your CRF and CRFP would keep me going for 18+ years!
 

Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
4,554
60,302
Casa Grande, AZ
No offense to any such mustachioed hipsters.
Fk ‘em-I’ve got no use for a man that dresses like a lumberjack that’s never set foot in the wild.

I’m glad to see C&D putting this line out, even if it’s not my thing.

Regarding the loss of 515-RC-1, I’m curious if I start having Amazon randomly drop off gallons of vinegar to Laudisi’s offices would MrReeves get the hint?
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
13,189
22,961
SE PA USA
Fk ‘em-I’ve got no use for a man that dresses like a lumberjack that’s never set foot in the wild.

I’m glad to see C&D putting this line out, even if it’s not my thing.

Regarding the loss of 515-RC-1, I’m curious if I start having Amazon randomly drop off gallons of vinegar to Laudisi’s offices would MrReeves get the hint?
None of the pipe tobacco producers grow. They all buy from brokers. So there is a very good chance that some of them use the same leaf. Certainly, whoever supplied Mac Baren/Sutliff will be looking for new markets, with aggresive pricing, so expect to see these tobaccos again.
 
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
4,554
60,302
Casa Grande, AZ
None of the pipe tobacco producers grow. They all buy from brokers. So there is a very good chance that some of them use the same leaf. Certainly, whoever supplied Mac Baren/Sutliff will be looking for new markets, with aggresive pricing, so expect to see these tobaccos again.

That’s awesome, and of course true. But how will those of us not “in the know” know?😆
 
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eyjaygaming

Lurker
Nov 29, 2022
35
231
Germany/Denmark
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That’s awesome, and of course true. But how will those of us not “in the know” know?😆

Sorry to disappoint... But the volume that pipe tobacco manufacturers acquires is a drop in the bucket to cigarettes, literally. So we funnell off of that. The yearly amount of Mac Baren Virginia leaf ordered (I think last year it was 35x 40 foot containers) seems like a lot, but it's not. I asked our leaf guy Franz today if leaf will be cheaper to buy, because STG now has doubled it's volume... He laughed. Nope. The cigarette guys set the prices.

But: the good news.... Speaking to leaf guys that have been on the industry for 30-40 years, the quality, amount of grades, scientific discoveries and availability of premium leaf has never been as good as today (take that, Mike McNeil 🤣)
 

9mmpuffer

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 1, 2018
127
97
Sorry to disappoint... But the volume that pipe tobacco manufacturers acquires is a drop in the bucket to cigarettes, literally. So we funnell off of that. The yearly amount of Mac Baren Virginia leaf ordered (I think last year it was 35x 40 foot containers) seems like a lot, but it's not. I asked our leaf guy Franz today if leaf will be cheaper to buy, because STG now has doubled it's volume... He laughed. Nope. The cigarette guys set the prices.

But: the good news.... Speaking to leaf guys that have been on the industry for 30-40 years, the quality, amount of grades, scientific discoveries and availability of premium leaf has never been as good as today (take that, Mike McNeil 🤣)
Please Mike, come back to us!🥲