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shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
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Georgia
So I just got a lathe and know nothing. I mean I ordered a set of tools and understand the basic principles, centering, and such, but for you lathe masters out there anything us noobs should know that we might not find online. Also anyone know where i can get a coupound tool rest vise. I've looked everywhere and just don't see them for sale. I figure for cutting such things like tenons I'll need some kind of vise that will hold my knife perfectly still. Any cheaper tips for accomplishing that? Any tips whatsover will be helpful.

 

lonestar

Lifer
Mar 22, 2011
2,854
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Edgewood Texas
No wood lathe experience here. Watch lots of videos, study all the information you can find, buy a couple books.

That is how I have learned anything I know.

What lathe did you end up with ?

 

shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
3,616
235
Georgia
I bought a 5 speed from harbor freight, it had good reviews. Came with the chucks. I figure since i mostly plan to make stems with it. It will be adequate for my needs

 

antipodesman

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 25, 2011
134
0
Vancouver Island
I suggest you take a course. When I was learning the lathe grabbed the skew chisel out of my hands and stuck it in the wall behind me. Good luck.

 

lonestar

Lifer
Mar 22, 2011
2,854
163
Edgewood Texas
I think the guys turning tenons with a wood lathe just hold the tool steady and work slowly down to the right size. I dont know that for sure, but I know Todd Bannard cuts tenons this way.

That, or using a tenon turner mounted in the tailstock. But then a good tenon turner is several hundred dollars and at that point you might as well have bought a metal lathe.

 

bentmike

Lifer
Jan 25, 2012
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1) Be mindful of safety at all times.
2) Raid the scrap box and just start turning. Learn by experience how the different tools cut. Lathe turning is definately a skill that improves with use. I think lonestar is correct about just using a steady hand. You can turn lots of materials without a fixed tool if you just go slow and don't dig too deep. I've even turned aluminum on my wood lathe just holding the tools.
3) Have fun!

 

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Dave,look around the pipe makers forum.Tons of info there. http://www.pipemakersforum.com/
This is a good place to buy tooling etc for small lathes,although I don't know if they would have anything for a wood lathe. http://www.littlemachineshop.com/default.php

 

shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
3,616
235
Georgia
I actually bought a smaller set of lathe knives the tools look the same they are just smaller versions of the normal size. Better for working on little stems or maybe tampers. Ive seen the littlemachine shop but need to explore these other pipe maker forums. Any of you guys work with epoxy? Have any kinds you prefer?

 

bentmike

Lifer
Jan 25, 2012
2,422
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I've always wanted a set of the micro turning tools. I like to turn very small pieces and you really are limited to how small your beads and coves can be by the size of the cutter. As far as epoxy it kind of depends on what you're doing. I always keep around the 5-minute stuff that comes in seperate little squeeze tubes -seems less mess. Cool stuff though -It sticks to just about everything and is sandable/ machines well.

 

shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
3,616
235
Georgia
Here is a pic of the tools that I got off ebay. They came today so I will be doing my first experiments. I'm also ordering a book on pen turning since a lot of pens are made of lucite I figure that I can get some tips on turning stems from that.
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ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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I would think it would be very tricky trying to turn a tenon in a wood lathe. Also facing it seems like it would be hard to do with a hand held tool. As far as epoxy,I've been using "Loctite" and 3M brands. Seems to work fine but I did have a problem on one pipe with an extension on the shank. The heat seemed to soften the epoxy. Now on anything that may get fairly warm I use good old JB Weld.It's good for 600 degrees.

 

shaintiques

Lifer
Jul 13, 2011
3,616
235
Georgia
Well Ed we will see I'm going to attempt it. I've seen a guy do it on youtube. Also I really like military style bits and think a lot of my tenons may be similar to that style but we will see everything is an experiment for me at this point. I'll pick up some jb weld. I want to attach some antler to briar, I'm really excited with the possibilities.

 

winton

Lifer
Oct 20, 2010
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The first step is getting decent saftey gear. Goggles or better yet a face shield. Otherwise your first attempt will be your last. Rotate the wood by hand before turning the lathe on. Always study the situation and figure out what can go wrong. Everytime something goes wrong, analyize until you know what happened, so it doesn't happen again. Start with wood found along the road, rather than expensive wood. Practice over and over again. Learn to make tampers before trying a pipe. Learn to sharpen your tools. When the tool no longer cuts like you want it to, then sharpen it. I of course keep my tools so sharp, I can shave with the shadow.
Winton

 

acme

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 4, 2011
124
0
I think that antipodesman is correct about taking a class. Many of the Woodcraft stores have lathe classes.

I would not suggest a class on pen turning, though. My experience is that pen turners, as a group, generally have a fairly low skill level. They have such a simple goal, that they are able to get by with dead-end techniques, and frequently never grow beyond them.
Almost all of my tenons, which I turn on a wood lathe, are made out of acrylic and go into ebonite mortices. Because the ebonite lacks the compressability of wood, I have to work within a tollerance of a couple of thousands of an inch. I have rarely seen a vice for working on a wood lathe, and looked at the tenon cutters briefly, but I like the tool in my hand. All that said, I have messed up by violating the Second Law of Woodturning*, but not too often. I turn as much of the stummel as I can on the lathe. I usually use a 1/2 inch round-nosed scraper to turn the tobacco chamber which permits me as much flexibily as I can have.
I would not recomend buying small tools. They are hard to sharpen, flex and vibrate much more than typically sized tools, and don't buy you much. I think that the smallest gouge that I use is 3/8 of an inch in diameter. I usually use a gouge for the rough work on the tenon and then use a parting tool at an angle like a skew for the final sizing.
*Second Law of Woodturning: You can take it off, but you can't put it back on.
anthony

acmewoodturning.com

 

wayneteipen

Can't Leave
May 7, 2012
473
222
I turn tenons on my wood lathe but only because I don't have a metal lathe. A metal lathe is way superior for this task. That being said, there are a few tricks that will make turning tenons on a wood lathe a bit easier. I prefer to approach the rod stock from the end as if I was turning a bowl. Work slowly. Once you get it close to the size you want, switch to sandpaper. If the tenon fits but squeeks when you remove it from the pipe, take some white buffing compound on a paper towel and buff the tenon while it's spinning in the lathe. Prepare to be frustrated and to waste a lot of material and time learning. Lastly, be very careful. A wood lathe has great potential to do severe bodily harm.

 
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