Latest P&C Catalogue and FDA

[jvnshr]

I hope so.

 

[jackswilling]

It is really designed to save e-cigs, but will directly benefit us pipe smokers and Standad Tobacco as well.

 

[sablebrush52]

Sable, I especially feel that the Midtown series is a major loss, as good matching tobacco of some of the classic tub blends at an affordable price. This will hike sales and prices of the remaining available blends and narrow the choices by maybe a reduction of two-thirds (I'm guessing).

Keep in mind there's a couple of years in which to stock up, though I wouldn't be surprised if things started to become unavailable in the last few months before the deeming period ends. As for what will be left, you guess is as good as mine, but there will still be a lot of choices. As there are something like 6000 blends available, a survival range of 1000 wouldn't be too farfetched.

 

[balkisobrains]

There are a couple of things that I have been wondering about. First thing has to do with "post-date" tinned blends. Let's say that the house bill does not pass and the "grandfather" date remains where it currently is slated to be. At that point, from what I can gather, it seems that the manufacturer can file for a grace period which would give them ~two years to continue to sell the blend. I wonder how much is that costing for that process per tinned blend. I'm guessing that they are paying lawyers to handle that, but is the FDA charging on top of that to process those applications too?

Also, I'm wondering what would really, actually happen if these manufacturers simply ignore the FDA and continue to operate as they have been. :puffpipe:

 

[pipesmokingtom]

it seems that the manufacturer can file for a grace period which would give them ~two years to continue to sell the blend. I wonder how much is that costing for that process per tinned blend. I'm guessing that they are paying lawyers to handle that, but is the FDA charging on top of that to process those applications too?

Not exactly. They have two years until they have to stop selling non-approved blends. So theoretically EVERYTHING could stay on the shelves for two more years, application or not. They get an extra (3rd) year, if they have an application submitted for approval. You don't "file for a grace period." Everything has a 2 year grace period and if you've filed for a blend to stay on the market, you get a third year pending the outcome of that application.
Additionally, no new blends can be introduced after August of this year without an application.

Also, I'm wondering what would really, actually happen if these manufacturers simply ignore the FDA and continue to operate as they have been

I don't suspect anyone wants to poke that bear if they intend on staying in the industry.

 

[balkisobrains]

pipesmokingtom

Not exactly. They have two years until they have to stop selling non-approved blends. So theoretically EVERYTHING could stay on the shelves for two more years, application or not. They get an extra (3rd) year, if they have an application submitted for approval. You don't "file for a grace period." Everything has a 2 year grace period and if you've filed for a blend to stay on the market, you get a third year pending the outcome of that application.

O.K. Thank you, I got it now.

...I don't suspect anyone wants to poke that bear if they intend on staying in the industry.

I take that to be the general line of thinking, that's why I'm asking!

 

[pipesmokingtom]

A not-so-small caveat.. The two year grace period really applies to blends by manufacturers or those with such a license.
Re-blends or special edition stuff.. Or blends by house blenders may not get the same leigway. This is why a lot of Russ O's stuff is dissappearing more hastily. No manufacturer license.
It's all a major bummer, my friend.

 

[anthonyrosenthal74]

I asked Russ earlier today, would P&C still be able to sell My Own Blend if the components were bagged separate and the purchaser simply mixed them together at home? His reply was, 'The answer isn't 100% clear yet, but my feeling is, for the most part, yes.' So maybe there's a chance My Own Blend will be saved. I hope so. It's fun and I have a couple blends saved to my account I'd like to keep buying from them.
Also, I know some of us are wondering what is going to happen to Russ. So I asked him about that too. He's pretty sure he's going to be just fine as he does a lot more at P&C than just blending.

 

[andrew]

We down at Standard Tobacco know that we will lose all the John Cotton's blends as well as War Horse RR some of the Murry's blends might survive but it is pretty depressing. We may be able to sell in the UK and the EU but what we have warned about for so long has come to pass.

So is the war horse plug going to be a limited run? Will Bengal Slices be gone also?