The KBV web site is KBV – Ken Byron Ventures - https://kbven.com, but the Outshine that was previously mentioned in this thread hasn't been available for years. Many of the releases are more or less one time.
Jim's C&D Sun Bear Mountain Flower Review.
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Thanks for sharing this information as I had not investigated the 2022 enough yet, but this explains a lot to me in regard to my reception of the 2022 versus the previous 2020 and 2021 iterations. Definitely not nearly as an enjoyable smoke for me versus the previous editions. Mostly disappointing at this point.
No worries there - I didn't mean any offence there @Chasing Embers . I was having a bit of a tongue in cheek moment with the whole 'don't mention your favourite blends' / misdirection thing.. Anyways it worked in my head but obviously didn't come across like that on screen.
Apologies there for the aggravation.
Would you say it’s worth $25 a tin ?
(yes yes it’s worth whatever someone will pay)
(yes yes it’s worth whatever someone will pay)
Mountain flower is quite close to the tin description for me. Definitely more floral and berry like with less sweetness compared to previous iterations. I think I like black locust better, but it’s still a great interesting tobacco. So kudos to Jeremy for keeping it interesting a unique.
Sounds like a flavor extravaganza. Are the Virginias or the Orientals the "base," that is, the greatest proportion of the blend? It sounds like maybe the Orientals predominate.
No actually it’s Virginia forward. The floralness comes from the honey mostly to me. Don’t get me wrong the blend has that Virginia sweetness. When I was referring to sweetness I meant of the honey. The others had a bolder honey sweetness to them
For me at least, the Virginias and Orientals are the main players. It's kind of like a sparring match between the two, one puff the Virginias are more apparent, the next puff, the Orientals, but I taste them both in every puff. In the background, the honey along with the elderflower weave in and out offering a touch of mild sweetness along with some floralness. I don't reach for this every day but I do find it an enjoyable smoke.
I tried a bowl out of a tin that I opened upon arrival, which gave it roughly a week to aerate (I do this for all C&D tins). I found Sun Bear to be very pleasant, it was a little sweet, a little fruity, and a little floral, all weaving nicely along throughout the bowl. I very much enjoyed it, I'm glad I purchased 3 tins!
Thats the funny thing about flavor being subjective. I get some sweetness, but its definitely not honey to me.
I get the typical sweet VA flavor but the Oriental is the main star in my opinion.
100% agree along with the berry from the honey. I’ve never had honey where the berry came through so much in the flavor. The state I live in has tons of wild blackberry’s, and I always buy local honey. But none have been so berry forward. When I say berry obviously I’m referring to blackberrys.
Okay, I am revisiting Sun Bear 2022 right now after having it opened and resting in the tin for the past two weeks. It has definitely improved. Less initial harshness with a bit more of the honey sweetness coming though. Still just doesn't seem as rich or refined as the previous two editions, but smokes well nonetheless. Meh. Can't find anything to be excited about with this iteration.
I've enjoyed it. Frankly, it is top shelf. We're lucky when people make tobaccos that are this good.
I quite enjoy this blend. The jar note is very comforting. Smells of blueberry muffins to me. My wife loves the room note. I stocked up to see how it does over time.
Wonderful smelling tin note but this one continues to fall short for me. Just too light. No real body to it. I've been mixing it with eight state burley to fatten it up and it's been better. On its own it's like smoking honey flavored air. Yes I've aired it out, dried it out, tried different pipes, smoked it slow, ect.. hopefully when I come back to the other tins I stashed away in years to come it will be more enjoyable.
Yeah, seems like a 100% different blend compared to last year's edition.